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I'm 6'2" and I don't fit in Ryan Air or Easy Jet planes :( I took and Easy Jet from London to Berlin (~1 hour) and I had to sit at an angle much to to consterna

I'm 6'2" and I don't fit in Ryan Air or Easy Jet planes :( I took and Easy Jet from London to Berlin (~1 hour) and I had to sit at an angle much to to consternation of the poor bloke sitting next to me. I'm happy to pay for the more expensive carrier to get a better user experience. You can tell I'm a mac user can't you ;) It's interesting to see how they save money. As well as hacking the system I think the LCC hacked the public in to thinking travelling like cattle is good. When they travel like cattle on the London Underground they all complain!

matthewking 17y ago
Ah, glad its not just me! I usually try to rush on at the front to get the seats near the emergency doors, extra leg room there. If you don't get them though the entire trip is hell..
randallsquared 17y ago
"You can tell I'm a mac user can't you" I'm not sure there's a correlation. I'm a Mac user, but always travel the lowest-cost airline I can. I'm easily willing to pay an extra thousand USD for a better user experience over ~4000 hours, but until I make a LOT more money, I'm not willing to pay an extra hundred for a better user experience over ~2 hours. That is, per-hour, the expensive airlines are two orders of magnitude more expensive than Apple. It's the difference between quality pricing and luxury pricing. :)
- scscsc 17y ago
  I think you took the wrong direction of reasoning. He says we can tell he's a Mac user because he is willing to pay more even for the two hours of a flight. Therefore, next to the flight expense, the Mac sounds like a cheap box.
  - randallsquared 17y ago
    Indeed. Whooosh. :)
seertaak 17y ago
> I think the LCC hacked the public in to thinking travelling like cattle is good Your comment appears light-hearted so I don't want to come down too strongly, but I must say I detect more than a whiff of elitism in this sentence. The public didn't need any "hacking" or manipulation; they don't fly these airlines because they "like travelling like cattle" (again, I detect a whiff of disdain for the "cattle-like" public), they fly these airlines in spite of that fact, because they're much cheaper. > When they travel like cattle on the London Underground they all complain! Again, light-hearted, but in juxtaposing these two sentences you're implying that the public is inconsistent in its criticism of the London Underground (although one wonders if the LCCs are so successful at "hacking" the public, why can't the LU tear a page out of their machiavellian book?). But there is indeed no inconsistency; the two examples are simply not comparable. A single fare on the LU costs around £5, this for a median travel distance of perhaps a few klicks. The scenario is, shall we say, somewhat different for LCCs! In addition, people use the LU to get to work; and being subjected to "cattle-like" circumstances on a daily basis is, again, a different kettle of fish from having to endure a 2 hours of mild discomfort in order to enjoy a couple of weeks in the sun once a year. > You can tell I'm a mac user can't you ;) You might want to consider whether it is you who's been "hacked" into paying a substantial premium for an equivalent product ;)
nihilocrat 17y ago
The airline/subway comparison is a little bit apples to oranges. I don't know about you, but I rarely travel, so I don't mind being subjected to discomfort for a few hours. However, for a daily commute, it's annoying to get shipped around "like cattle" every day.

matthewking 17y ago

Ah, glad its not just me! I usually try to rush on at the front to get the seats near the emergency doors, extra leg room there. If you don't get them though the entire trip is hell..

randallsquared 17y ago

"You can tell I'm a mac user can't you" I'm not sure there's a correlation. I'm a Mac user, but always travel the lowest-cost airline I can. I'm easily willing to pay an extra thousand USD for a better user experience over ~4000 hours, but until I make a LOT more money, I'm not willing to pay an extra hundred for a better user experience over ~2 hours. That is, per-hour, the expensive airlines are two orders of magnitude more expensive than Apple. It's the difference between quality pricing and luxury pricing. :)

scscsc 17y ago
I think you took the wrong direction of reasoning. He says we can tell he's a Mac user because he is willing to pay more even for the two hours of a flight. Therefore, next to the flight expense, the Mac sounds like a cheap box.
- randallsquared 17y ago
  Indeed. Whooosh. :)

seertaak 17y ago

> I think the LCC hacked the public in to thinking travelling like cattle is good Your comment appears light-hearted so I don't want to come down too strongly, but I must say I detect more than a whiff of elitism in this sentence. The public didn't need any "hacking" or manipulation; they don't fly these airlines because they "like travelling like cattle" (again, I detect a whiff of disdain for the "cattle-like" public), they fly these airlines in spite of that fact, because they're much cheaper. > When they travel like cattle on the London Underground they all complain! Again, light-hearted, but in juxtaposing these two sentences you're implying that the public is inconsistent in its criticism of the London Underground (although one wonders if the LCCs are so successful at "hacking" the public, why can't the LU tear a page out of their machiavellian book?). But there is indeed no inconsistency; the two examples are simply not comparable. A single fare on the LU costs around £5, this for a median travel distance of perhaps a few klicks. The scenario is, shall we say, somewhat different for LCCs! In addition, people use the LU to get to work; and being subjected to "cattle-like" circumstances on a daily basis is, again, a different kettle of fish from having to endure a 2 hours of mild discomfort in order to enjoy a couple of weeks in the sun once a year. > You can tell I'm a mac user can't you ;) You might want to consider whether it is you who's been "hacked" into paying a substantial premium for an equivalent product ;)

nihilocrat 17y ago

The airline/subway comparison is a little bit apples to oranges. I don't know about you, but I rarely travel, so I don't mind being subjected to discomfort for a few hours. However, for a daily commute, it's annoying to get shipped around "like cattle" every day.