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EndDash

78 points by jashkenas 13y ago

elmin 13y ago
Just to note, OP is the creator of Backbone. Subtle endorsement?
- jashkenas 13y ago
  Not really ... just thought that it had a neat API, and was nicely implemented: https://github.com/Amicus/end-dash/tree/master/lib https://github.com/Amicus/end-dash/tree/master/lib There a bunch of two-way-binding plugins for Backbone, if that sort of thing is your cup of tea — and some of them are really well done. Apart from EndDash, some of my favorites are: Stickit: http://nytimes.github.io/backbone.stickit/ http://nytimes.github.io/backbone.stickit/ Rivets.js: http://rivetsjs.com http://rivetsjs.com component/reactive: https://github.com/component/reactive https://github.com/component/reactive
ricardobeat 13y ago
Angular for Backbone!
chrismorgan 13y ago
Aww, they don't even let me find out conveniently if it's open to XSS attacks/HTML injection!
- xentronium 13y ago
  Yup, checked it first thing too.
- joshguthrie 13y ago
  What if my name is /<.*>/? :(
  - onion2k 13y ago
    Then you had insightful, if rather cruel, parents.
untothebreach 13y ago
Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6755576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6755576
- jashkenas 13y ago
  Whoops, sorry about that. Didn't realize it was already posted.
  - untothebreach 13y ago
    Sorry, wasn't trying to be snarky, just wanted to make sure the original discussion was included with the new discussion. I am actually glad you reposted it, it didn't spend as long on the front page yesterday as I thought it should have.
aviraldg 13y ago
The "Welcome Sir/Madam Hacker" thing is kinda cute.
- whalesalad 13y ago
  Haha, just got that too. Tried to cause an alert.
deleted 13y ago
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finalight 13y ago
how's this compared to angularJS or any other kind of javascript single page application?
bnegreve 13y ago
So, what exactly is a two-way binding javascript templating framework built on top of semantic HTML?
- atwebb 13y ago
  I can't help but think of the two-way petting zoo scene from the Office. Now I'm scared EndDash is going to try to bind with me...
streptomycin 13y ago
This is probably due to my naivety, but it seems like there have been a lot of new libraries recently that are basically "Knockout with slightly different syntax". But Knockout is robust, well tested, has excellent browser support, has excellent documentation, and is under active development. Why should I be eager to discard it?
dminor 13y ago
70k is pretty big, especially given it needs jquery, underscore and backbone as well. Knockout and Ractive each give you much the same thing at only 40k and 32k and without the dependencies.
- coderzach 13y ago
  We're using browserify for the dist files, which pulls backbone and underscore in. It's actually 33k by itself. We're also in the process of getting rid of those as hard dependencies (jquery, underscore, backbone). EDIT: Those figures for knockout and ractive include gziping. GZIPed end-dash is only 10k.

EndDash

78 points by jashkenas 13y ago

elmin 13y ago

Just to note, OP is the creator of Backbone. Subtle endorsement?

jashkenas 13y ago
Not really ... just thought that it had a neat API, and was nicely implemented: https://github.com/Amicus/end-dash/tree/master/lib https://github.com/Amicus/end-dash/tree/master/lib There a bunch of two-way-binding plugins for Backbone, if that sort of thing is your cup of tea — and some of them are really well done. Apart from EndDash, some of my favorites are: Stickit: http://nytimes.github.io/backbone.stickit/ http://nytimes.github.io/backbone.stickit/ Rivets.js: http://rivetsjs.com http://rivetsjs.com component/reactive: https://github.com/component/reactive https://github.com/component/reactive

ricardobeat 13y ago

Angular for Backbone!

chrismorgan 13y ago

Aww, they don't even let me find out conveniently if it's open to XSS attacks/HTML injection!

xentronium 13y ago
Yup, checked it first thing too.
joshguthrie 13y ago
What if my name is /<.*>/? :(
- onion2k 13y ago
  Then you had insightful, if rather cruel, parents.

untothebreach 13y ago

Original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6755576 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6755576

jashkenas 13y ago
Whoops, sorry about that. Didn't realize it was already posted.
- untothebreach 13y ago
  Sorry, wasn't trying to be snarky, just wanted to make sure the original discussion was included with the new discussion. I am actually glad you reposted it, it didn't spend as long on the front page yesterday as I thought it should have.

aviraldg 13y ago

The "Welcome Sir/Madam Hacker" thing is kinda cute.

whalesalad 13y ago
Haha, just got that too. Tried to cause an alert.

deleted 13y ago

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finalight 13y ago

how's this compared to angularJS or any other kind of javascript single page application?

bnegreve 13y ago

So, what exactly is a two-way binding javascript templating framework built on top of semantic HTML?

atwebb 13y ago
I can't help but think of the two-way petting zoo scene from the Office. Now I'm scared EndDash is going to try to bind with me...

streptomycin 13y ago

This is probably due to my naivety, but it seems like there have been a lot of new libraries recently that are basically "Knockout with slightly different syntax". But Knockout is robust, well tested, has excellent browser support, has excellent documentation, and is under active development. Why should I be eager to discard it?

dminor 13y ago

70k is pretty big, especially given it needs jquery, underscore and backbone as well. Knockout and Ractive each give you much the same thing at only 40k and 32k and without the dependencies.

coderzach 13y ago
We're using browserify for the dist files, which pulls backbone and underscore in. It's actually 33k by itself. We're also in the process of getting rid of those as hard dependencies (jquery, underscore, backbone). EDIT: Those figures for knockout and ractive include gziping. GZIPed end-dash is only 10k.