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>> Its impossible to make a capacitive stylus that isn't like drawing with a giant, cumbersome crayon. Which is why I think Apple needs to offer a version of t

>> Its impossible to make a capacitive stylus that isn't like drawing with a giant, cumbersome crayon. Which is why I think Apple needs to offer a version of the iPad with a Wacom-style digitizer. Steve Jobs' famous quote "If you see a stylus they blew it" might apply for UI navigation, but it doesn't apply for a lot of other use cases, including the ones that Pencil is trying to address.

leoc 13y ago
> Steve Jobs' famous quote "If you see a stylus they blew it" might apply for UI navigation I don't even think it's all that true in that case either. Jobs' stylus ban did serve as a useful forcing device: with a stylus available, pre-iPhone developers of touch UIs tended to fall back to producing bad ports of the WIMP concept, complete with buttons of minute size. But at the same time it would certainly have been possible to produce a good smartphone/tablet UI that was stylus-enabled. In fact I think you could, for example, port the original iPhone's UI to a stylus-only basis fairly smoothly. You'd need a couple of extra physical buttons for call accept/reject and other instant-response actions, and you'd need some alternatives for the few places where two-finger pinch/spread gestures are really important, but otherwise it would be a pretty straightforward port with, I think, a very usable result: only slightly less appealing than the finger-touch original. Overall it seems pretty similar to Jobs' ban on cursor keys on the original Macintosh, which probably helped make early Macintosh software more Mac-native but was rolled back without difficulty later. Agreed that the lack of proper stylus support is an increasingly glaring lack in the iPhone/iPad line, the largest iPads in particular.
- slantyyz 13y ago
  >> I don't even think it's all that true in that case either. I don't disagree, that's why I used "might" as a weasel word.
  - leoc 13y ago
    All good. Weasels are beautiful, intelligent creatures. ;)
tannerbrockwell 13y ago
A Double entendre if ever I saw one, leave it to the greatest salesman of the 21st century!

leoc 13y ago

> Steve Jobs' famous quote "If you see a stylus they blew it" might apply for UI navigation I don't even think it's all that true in that case either. Jobs' stylus ban did serve as a useful forcing device: with a stylus available, pre-iPhone developers of touch UIs tended to fall back to producing bad ports of the WIMP concept, complete with buttons of minute size. But at the same time it would certainly have been possible to produce a good smartphone/tablet UI that was stylus-enabled. In fact I think you could, for example, port the original iPhone's UI to a stylus-only basis fairly smoothly. You'd need a couple of extra physical buttons for call accept/reject and other instant-response actions, and you'd need some alternatives for the few places where two-finger pinch/spread gestures are really important, but otherwise it would be a pretty straightforward port with, I think, a very usable result: only slightly less appealing than the finger-touch original. Overall it seems pretty similar to Jobs' ban on cursor keys on the original Macintosh, which probably helped make early Macintosh software more Mac-native but was rolled back without difficulty later. Agreed that the lack of proper stylus support is an increasingly glaring lack in the iPhone/iPad line, the largest iPads in particular.

slantyyz 13y ago
>> I don't even think it's all that true in that case either. I don't disagree, that's why I used "might" as a weasel word.
- leoc 13y ago
  All good. Weasels are beautiful, intelligent creatures. ;)

tannerbrockwell 13y ago

A Double entendre if ever I saw one, leave it to the greatest salesman of the 21st century!