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Coming from Romania, I also had to face some extra control in US airports + we also need visa which is given also after an interview. Romania is a country with

Coming from Romania, I also had to face some extra control in US airports + we also need visa which is given also after an interview. Romania is a country with zero terrorism. I only wish US people to be treated in EU the same way they treat EU people in US.

alexeisadeski3 13y ago
Two wrongs make a right.
- thaumasiotes 13y ago
  There are plenty of reciprocal visa policies; I understand that China charges US visitors a fee equal to the fee the US charges Chinese, and Brazil's horrific bureaucracy is also just trying to match what they feel Brazilians have to go through if they want to enter the US. The concept sort of makes sense; I can envision a situation where tourists are appalled by visa procedures (especially if they're going to Brazil) and pressure their politicians to lighten up. The major flaw there is that most americans will never want a visa anyway, so it ends up being a largely invisible protest on the part of the other countries.
  - alexeisadeski3 13y ago
    >The major flaw there is that most americans will never want a visa anyway, so it ends up being a largely invisible protest on the part of the other countries. Most Americans don't even have passports! [1] By punishing the tiny fraction of Americans visiting Brazil or China, these countries are simply shooting themselves in the foot. It's a mostly invisible protest - and the only people witnessing said protest are the ones who already like you. [1] http://andrewhy.de/percent-of-americans-with-passports/ http://andrewhy.de/percent-of-americans-with-passports/
GFischer 13y ago
I used to think that way, but now I don't. Brazil implemented a retaliation policy, where U.S. citizens are treated much like Brazilians are in the U.S. Several nice people from the U.S. have had a bad time as a result, and it made me reconsider - I don't think "an eye for an eye" is such a great thing. If only we could only treat people with power to change things that way :) - but someone traveling is already not a standard U.S. citizen and probably more open by default.
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alexeisadeski3 13y ago

Two wrongs make a right.

thaumasiotes 13y ago
There are plenty of reciprocal visa policies; I understand that China charges US visitors a fee equal to the fee the US charges Chinese, and Brazil's horrific bureaucracy is also just trying to match what they feel Brazilians have to go through if they want to enter the US. The concept sort of makes sense; I can envision a situation where tourists are appalled by visa procedures (especially if they're going to Brazil) and pressure their politicians to lighten up. The major flaw there is that most americans will never want a visa anyway, so it ends up being a largely invisible protest on the part of the other countries.
- alexeisadeski3 13y ago
  >The major flaw there is that most americans will never want a visa anyway, so it ends up being a largely invisible protest on the part of the other countries. Most Americans don't even have passports! [1] By punishing the tiny fraction of Americans visiting Brazil or China, these countries are simply shooting themselves in the foot. It's a mostly invisible protest - and the only people witnessing said protest are the ones who already like you. [1] http://andrewhy.de/percent-of-americans-with-passports/ http://andrewhy.de/percent-of-americans-with-passports/

GFischer 13y ago

I used to think that way, but now I don't. Brazil implemented a retaliation policy, where U.S. citizens are treated much like Brazilians are in the U.S. Several nice people from the U.S. have had a bad time as a result, and it made me reconsider - I don't think "an eye for an eye" is such a great thing. If only we could only treat people with power to change things that way :) - but someone traveling is already not a standard U.S. citizen and probably more open by default.

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