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Fine, don't use Clojure. Myself, I'll get stuff done, and not whine about the fact that my laptop's BIOS is not written in lisp.

by arohner 17y ago

michaelneale 17y ago
It is interesting, how if someone doesn't like something they seem to see it as their mission to make sure no one else uses it? (or it appears that way, what I think it really means is self promotion, and its easier to tear down then build up when building your profile in public).
- zcrar70 17y ago
  they seem to see it as their mission to make sure no one else uses it I don't think they necessarily do - they're just saying what they think, but then other people read it and get annoyed (justifiably.) That's the thing with blogs, the entire world can hear your opinion, and sometimes it would have been better if they didn't.
  - michaelneale 17y ago
    hahahah - yes, so true. Actually in this article, when I re-read it, I think it is written in a sort of ironic/fun tone. Although I love clojure, I understand the disappointment in not being "lisp all the way down" - there is something satisfying about the purity of that approach, if it is practical. Maybe one day...
pwncat 17y ago
(or (with? you lisp) (against? you lisp)) I'm kidding.
- arohner 17y ago
  I've been writing Clojure full time for the last few weeks, I didn't even slow down to parse that sentence. :-)
  - pwncat 17y ago
    Same here. I think it's a great language. As much as I value purity from an academic standpoint, I also need to eat. I'd rather see a 90%-pure Lisp that I can get a job in than a 100%-pure Lisp that I can't. Moreover, I think Clojure will get more Lispy, rather than less, over time. In 2015, I think far fewer people will be programming in Java full-time, and the JVM will be optimized as a VM to support higher-level languages rather than to support Java as a primary language.

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Fine, don't use Clojure. Myself, I'll get stuff done, and not whine about the fact that my laptop's BIOS is not written in lisp.

by arohner 17y ago

Fine, don't use Clojure. Myself, I'll get stuff done, and not whine about the fact that my laptop's BIOS is not written in lisp.

michaelneale 17y ago
It is interesting, how if someone doesn't like something they seem to see it as their mission to make sure no one else uses it? (or it appears that way, what I think it really means is self promotion, and its easier to tear down then build up when building your profile in public).
- zcrar70 17y ago
  they seem to see it as their mission to make sure no one else uses it I don't think they necessarily do - they're just saying what they think, but then other people read it and get annoyed (justifiably.) That's the thing with blogs, the entire world can hear your opinion, and sometimes it would have been better if they didn't.
  - michaelneale 17y ago
    hahahah - yes, so true. Actually in this article, when I re-read it, I think it is written in a sort of ironic/fun tone. Although I love clojure, I understand the disappointment in not being "lisp all the way down" - there is something satisfying about the purity of that approach, if it is practical. Maybe one day...
pwncat 17y ago
(or (with? you lisp) (against? you lisp)) I'm kidding.
- arohner 17y ago
  I've been writing Clojure full time for the last few weeks, I didn't even slow down to parse that sentence. :-)
  - pwncat 17y ago
    Same here. I think it's a great language. As much as I value purity from an academic standpoint, I also need to eat. I'd rather see a 90%-pure Lisp that I can get a job in than a 100%-pure Lisp that I can't. Moreover, I think Clojure will get more Lispy, rather than less, over time. In 2015, I think far fewer people will be programming in Java full-time, and the JVM will be optimized as a VM to support higher-level languages rather than to support Java as a primary language.