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As I was pointing in some other post, I am always looking for some thing better than Java. My problem is Very Very Good IDE. Without that I won't work with any

As I was pointing in some other post, I am always looking for some thing better than Java. My problem is Very Very Good IDE. Without that I won't work with any language no matter how much great it is. (Because my programmers not not smart). They live and think in Java and Eclipse. Can someone let me know where does Groovy Stand with when compared to Java + Eclipse?

bebop 13y ago
Have you tried IntelliJ IDEA? They have a free community version that you can use: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/ http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/ I switched to their Python IDE (PyCharm) and have never looked back.
Edmond 13y ago
In using Groovy for web development, checkout our product (www.crudzilla.com) here's a short video demoing coding in Groovy and other jvm languages: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeOS2hqtMg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeOS2hqtMg We use JSR-223 to support the various languages
- rufugee 13y ago
  I saw you make this same comment on another page. I'd like to learn more, but your website is very scant on details. All I can tell is that it allows me to code in the browser and has quite a few screenshots, but how about a technology overview?
  - Edmond 13y ago
    There is high quality documentation bundled with the product. We might eventually put it on the website for users. On the product home tab there is the link to the user guide and design document.
djKianoosh 13y ago
the vmware/springsource folks have their SpringSource Tool Suite (STS) which is a whole slew of plugins for eclipse. I think you'll be surprised at the quality of integration. Regardless, IDE would not be a major concern for me when it comes to using groovy for an old-fashioned java dev team.
zmmmmm 13y ago
Groovy has a great eclipse plugin that makes it pretty much seamless from Eclipse - it "just works" the same as if you are programming Java. Your programmers will feel right at home.
- mindcrime 13y ago
  Yeah, the Groovy plugin for Eclipse is pretty decent. The "intellisense" function can be a bit slow at times, and I think there are just a few more times that it is unable to find the relevant auto-complete, as compared to working in Java. But other than those two minor nits, it mostly "just works" as you say. I'm a fan.
mbell 13y ago
Groovy works extremely well with Intellij Idea. I often mix Java and Groovy in projects and for the most part it's seamless. I'll start something in Java and as soon as I run into something that should be done with a closure or functional idioms that would require 100 lines of java instead of 2 lines of groovy, I just change the file extension from .java to .groovy, write it as it should be and move on.
- seniorsassycat 13y ago
  This is Groovy's biggest advantage, but it is often left out of discussions.

bebop 13y ago

Have you tried IntelliJ IDEA? They have a free community version that you can use: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/ http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/download/ I switched to their Python IDE (PyCharm) and have never looked back.

Edmond 13y ago

In using Groovy for web development, checkout our product (www.crudzilla.com) here's a short video demoing coding in Groovy and other jvm languages: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeOS2hqtMg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqeOS2hqtMg We use JSR-223 to support the various languages

rufugee 13y ago
I saw you make this same comment on another page. I'd like to learn more, but your website is very scant on details. All I can tell is that it allows me to code in the browser and has quite a few screenshots, but how about a technology overview?
- Edmond 13y ago
  There is high quality documentation bundled with the product. We might eventually put it on the website for users. On the product home tab there is the link to the user guide and design document.

djKianoosh 13y ago

the vmware/springsource folks have their SpringSource Tool Suite (STS) which is a whole slew of plugins for eclipse. I think you'll be surprised at the quality of integration. Regardless, IDE would not be a major concern for me when it comes to using groovy for an old-fashioned java dev team.

zmmmmm 13y ago

Groovy has a great eclipse plugin that makes it pretty much seamless from Eclipse - it "just works" the same as if you are programming Java. Your programmers will feel right at home.

mindcrime 13y ago
Yeah, the Groovy plugin for Eclipse is pretty decent. The "intellisense" function can be a bit slow at times, and I think there are just a few more times that it is unable to find the relevant auto-complete, as compared to working in Java. But other than those two minor nits, it mostly "just works" as you say. I'm a fan.

mbell 13y ago

Groovy works extremely well with Intellij Idea. I often mix Java and Groovy in projects and for the most part it's seamless. I'll start something in Java and as soon as I run into something that should be done with a closure or functional idioms that would require 100 lines of java instead of 2 lines of groovy, I just change the file extension from .java to .groovy, write it as it should be and move on.

seniorsassycat 13y ago
This is Groovy's biggest advantage, but it is often left out of discussions.