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Considering that Dropbox are completely dependant on Amazon for their service and overnight Amazon could sink them "ooops your instances just got deleted, oops"

by dcc1 13y ago

Considering that Dropbox are completely dependant on Amazon for their service and overnight Amazon could sink them "ooops your instances just got deleted, oops" 8 billion is a bit of a joke Now if they owned their own equipment in their own datacenters...

consonants 13y ago
A bigger threat would be Amazon competing with Dropbox, not some passive-aggressive slight.
antimatter 13y ago
Are there any plans for Dropbox to move to its own infrastructure? At their scale, I would think it would be much cheaper just going by how much Everpix was paying Amazon for storage.
baddox 13y ago
...and their own ISPs, and their own operating system developed completely internally...
dcc1 13y ago
Downvoted? really? for pointing out a huge problem with Dropbox business model?
rwissmann 13y ago
That would however permanently damage Amazon's AWS business, which Bezos believes could become their largest revenue generator. Amazon and Dropbox aren't even competitors at the moment. Very unlikely.
- dcc1 13y ago
  You would think an 8billion dollar business would be able to afford a server or two (or datacenter or two) and not be reliant completely on someone else
djs070 13y ago
Why would AWS sink what I presume is one of their biggest customers? This is analogous to claiming that any distributor could go under if their supplier refused to continue to supply them.
spdy 13y ago
Why should Amazon do that? Does not make any sense they need and want to keep businesses like DropBox on AWS. They are a service provider and want to make money.
yahelc 13y ago
Netflix, with a market cap of 20 billion, has their infrastructure completely dependent on AWS, as well. Doesn't seem to be spooking markets.
macspoofing 13y ago
>Considering that Dropbox are completely dependant on Amazon for their service ... They aren't. If they switched tomorrow or supplemented AWS with their own data-centers, you'd never notice a difference.
awj 13y ago
So ... your argument is that Dropbox's valuation is ridiculous because Amazon could completely destroy AWS and take out Dropbox in the process. Because that is what would happen if they did this. Everyone else who does anything important with AWS would drop whatever they were doing and start migrating off of it immediately. But, yes, I suppose "my supplier could lose their mind and destroy the product I buy from them" is a concern that needs to be evaluated.

by dcc1 13y ago

consonants 13y ago

A bigger threat would be Amazon competing with Dropbox, not some passive-aggressive slight.

antimatter 13y ago

Are there any plans for Dropbox to move to its own infrastructure? At their scale, I would think it would be much cheaper just going by how much Everpix was paying Amazon for storage.

baddox 13y ago

...and their own ISPs, and their own operating system developed completely internally...

dcc1 13y ago

Downvoted? really? for pointing out a huge problem with Dropbox business model?

rwissmann 13y ago

That would however permanently damage Amazon's AWS business, which Bezos believes could become their largest revenue generator. Amazon and Dropbox aren't even competitors at the moment. Very unlikely.

dcc1 13y ago
You would think an 8billion dollar business would be able to afford a server or two (or datacenter or two) and not be reliant completely on someone else

djs070 13y ago

Why would AWS sink what I presume is one of their biggest customers? This is analogous to claiming that any distributor could go under if their supplier refused to continue to supply them.

spdy 13y ago

Why should Amazon do that? Does not make any sense they need and want to keep businesses like DropBox on AWS. They are a service provider and want to make money.

yahelc 13y ago

Netflix, with a market cap of 20 billion, has their infrastructure completely dependent on AWS, as well. Doesn't seem to be spooking markets.

macspoofing 13y ago

>Considering that Dropbox are completely dependant on Amazon for their service ... They aren't. If they switched tomorrow or supplemented AWS with their own data-centers, you'd never notice a difference.

awj 13y ago

So ... your argument is that Dropbox's valuation is ridiculous because Amazon could completely destroy AWS and take out Dropbox in the process. Because that is what would happen if they did this. Everyone else who does anything important with AWS would drop whatever they were doing and start migrating off of it immediately. But, yes, I suppose "my supplier could lose their mind and destroy the product I buy from them" is a concern that needs to be evaluated.