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> Additionally, most people believe lethal force is justified in cases of defense. Defense against risk of death or grievous bodily harm. Which is not at all w
by mpyne 13y ago
> Additionally, most people believe lethal force is justified in cases of defense.
Defense against risk of death or grievous bodily harm. Which is not at all what's being discussed here, even if we agree to slant the scenario completely from the POV of DPR. But yet you still manage to find that murder might be acceptable here.
Remember that the pure libertarian utopia is supposed to make things better by permitting individual liberty against the oppression of the state. It's not supposed to make things worse (i.e. to easily permit murder-for-convenience), nor to keep things the same (as otherwise why change at all).
- MichaelGG 13y agoSo lethal force isn't justified, say, if someone is coming to take your family into indefinite detention or slavery? So long the attacker isn't going to kill or seriously hurt them physically, then you've got to just try to talk them out of it?
- bennyg 13y agoWell of course you should try to protect your family, just know that the law will want you after. Morally right and legally right don't always align unfortunately in most cases where that's true.
- mpyne 13y agoDon't be obtuse by trying to act like that since I didn't specifically enumerate every case in which deadly force is applicable, that means I don't believe any other case allows for it. And don't be idiotic by trying to equate "kidnapping of my family to be put into slavery" with "oh no this guy might give an accurate statement about myself to someone important!".