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Fun fact: btcchina is trading at ~5400CNY/BTC right now, which is approximately $880 while the average on other exchanges is $700. Good day for arbitrage. btcc

by VMG 13y ago

Fun fact: btcchina is trading at ~5400CNY/BTC right now, which is approximately $880 while the average on other exchanges is $700. Good day for arbitrage. btcchina: http://bitcoinity.org/markets/btcchina/CNY http://bitcoinity.org/markets/btcchina/CNY bitstamp: http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD http://bitcoinity.org/markets/bitstamp/USD

bernatfp 13y ago
I have noticed that this is happenning with other Chinese exchanges such as OKcoin and FXBTC as well. There must be a reason why this arbitrage exists. It's probably the difficulty to close the loop between cashing out in RMB and funding your account on Bitstamp with €/$. Meanwhile the safest way to do arbitrage is between BTC-E and Bitstamp because they both have low fees for SEPA deposits/withdrawals. Must be European though.
panarky 13y ago
Good point. As I write this, BTC-China is at 5680 RMB, or 932 USD. Bitstamp is 655 USD, Gox is 776 USD. Maybe China is driving the demand and other exchanges are arbitraging against China. Since there's a lag in transferring funds into exchanges, the 20% to 40% premium in China may just be a measure of latency in a fast-moving market. If so, then we'll see the prices converge over time, and we should use BTC-China as a leading indicator of exchange rates.
- bernatfp 13y ago
  FWIW, if you are seriously into arbitraging, you won't keep transferring funds between both exchanges to finish the cycle of buying-selling. What you will actually do is having half of your funds on both sites and execute both operations on both sites at the same time to have them match.
  - gigq 13y ago
    Yep, that's the only way to do it with zero risk. But since btcchina.com is consistently higher than the other top exchanges you'll eventually have to move CNY out of there and bitcoin in. Moving bitcoin there is trivial (which shows how great bitcoin is) but moving CNY out and converting it to USD for the other exchanges is trickier (need a Chinese bank account for example) so I would expect the lag in price to continue.
    - bernatfp 13y ago
      Exactly, that's the point I've raised in another comment. By the way, I've read that Bobby Lee (CEO @ BTCChina) is already dealing with Chinese authorities to see if he can expand the business out of China (read: accept €/$). Can't wait to see this happen as well as seeing Litecoin integrated there.
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by VMG 13y ago

bernatfp 13y ago

I have noticed that this is happenning with other Chinese exchanges such as OKcoin and FXBTC as well. There must be a reason why this arbitrage exists. It's probably the difficulty to close the loop between cashing out in RMB and funding your account on Bitstamp with €/$. Meanwhile the safest way to do arbitrage is between BTC-E and Bitstamp because they both have low fees for SEPA deposits/withdrawals. Must be European though.

panarky 13y ago

Good point. As I write this, BTC-China is at 5680 RMB, or 932 USD. Bitstamp is 655 USD, Gox is 776 USD. Maybe China is driving the demand and other exchanges are arbitraging against China. Since there's a lag in transferring funds into exchanges, the 20% to 40% premium in China may just be a measure of latency in a fast-moving market. If so, then we'll see the prices converge over time, and we should use BTC-China as a leading indicator of exchange rates.

bernatfp 13y ago
FWIW, if you are seriously into arbitraging, you won't keep transferring funds between both exchanges to finish the cycle of buying-selling. What you will actually do is having half of your funds on both sites and execute both operations on both sites at the same time to have them match.
- gigq 13y ago
  Yep, that's the only way to do it with zero risk. But since btcchina.com is consistently higher than the other top exchanges you'll eventually have to move CNY out of there and bitcoin in. Moving bitcoin there is trivial (which shows how great bitcoin is) but moving CNY out and converting it to USD for the other exchanges is trickier (need a Chinese bank account for example) so I would expect the lag in price to continue.
  - bernatfp 13y ago
    Exactly, that's the point I've raised in another comment. By the way, I've read that Bobby Lee (CEO @ BTCChina) is already dealing with Chinese authorities to see if he can expand the business out of China (read: accept €/$). Can't wait to see this happen as well as seeing Litecoin integrated there.
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