> most people are excited for kotlin, but no one is really talking about ceylon Perhaps that should be "most Groovy people are excited for Kotlin". The reason

> most people are excited for kotlin, but no one is really talking about ceylon Perhaps that should be "most Groovy people are excited for Kotlin". The reason "Groovers" look at Kotlin before Ceylon could be because Groovy creator James Strachan and Groovy++ creator Alex Tkachman jumped over to Kotlin.