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I'd be cautious of using number of submissions as a metric for growth. It's possible that at least some of the growth in the number of submissions is caused by
by gabemart 13y ago
I'd be cautious of using number of submissions as a metric for growth. It's possible that at least some of the growth in the number of submissions is caused by an increase in the ratio of spam.
In fact, a growing number of submissions can be a problem for a social news aggregator. Is it fair to assume that curation capacity will scale linearly with submission quantity? Perhaps not. Even if a linear growth in submissions represents a scaled growth in visitors and user accounts, curation capacity will only scale if new user accounts have the same curation appetite as older user accounts.
If you get lots of new submissions and lots of new visitors but a smaller number of new people voting on submissions, average quality of front-page material will suffer. It's possible there will be a positive feedback effect if older users with a higher appetite for curating content are more sensitive to a decline in quality and thus more likely to leave the site, exacerbating the problem.
When a social news site is young and small, (non-spam) submissions are a Good Thing. But as a user-driven site matures, it's much more valuable to have better submissions rather than more submissions.
I hypothesize that one solution to the seemingly inevitable decline in quality of large social sharing sites is to introduce a cost to posting new content. A trivial example would be scaling the minimum time between submissions to the user's karma for previous submissions. (For this to work without incentivizing spam via sock puppets, there would have to be heavy restrictions on posting content for new users.) The time-between-submissions could be large for less proven accounts - think days rather than minutes.
There are problems with this approach, but they may be better problems to have than the alternative.
- niuzeta 13y agoexactly. the number of submissions is simply too simple a measure for too broad a site. what about karma distribution, responses, flames and all? you might have a site with ten submissions a day but of those ten nine are a good read, and another site with 100 submissions but also nine good reads.
- shiftpgdn 13y agoI run a small subreddit with about 4k subscribers and I think you're onto something. The amount of spam that beats the spam filter feels absolutely overwhelming sometimes. Even with self posts only enabled there is still a crushing amount of spam submitted daily.
- nikolak 13y agoMy experience is completely different. I run 2 subreddits, one with ~15k subscribers and one with ~2k, and I don't remember last time I even saw spam being submitted - and when it got submitted 95% of the time spam filter caught it. If I remember correctly number of spam posts that got through spam filter was a lot higher a year ago than now.
- nols 13y agoI'm not seeing that at all, I run a few subs over 10K users and I'm not seeing much spam at all.
- shiftpgdn 13y agoWhat are your subs targeted at though?