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Sure vB is crap... and then you look at the other options out there and realize they're even worse. Especially 5-10 years ago when many of the sites using vB st

by cdr 13y ago

Sure vB is crap... and then you look at the other options out there and realize they're even worse. Especially 5-10 years ago when many of the sites using vB started using it. It's wildly successful - at least in the niche I'm familiar with - for a reason. It's reasonably cheap, reasonably easy to work with even for nontechnical people, works reasonably well, and looks decent.

tluyben2 13y ago
Every time I open the admin interface shivers run down my spine. I don't understand how anyone can find that 'easy to work with'. I'm technical so maybe that's it. But you are right; the competition (at least it used to be; haven't needed any forums recently and the last one I made myself) was every far worse.
csmuk 13y ago
Please don't make excuses for it. I've had to deal with the multi-day aftermath of an XSS worm twice. That's when you realise that it's as bad as it is. After that it was "get fucked" and move to phpbb which while is not a stellar product it seems to be put together with a modicum of common sense and has a responsive community and support.
- hfern 13y ago
  What were your thoughts on XenForo?
  - csmuk 13y ago
    Hell no. It's based on the Zend framework which is an even greater pile of rot!
    - sampk 13y ago
      For real? Oh a spaghetti fan I see.
      - csmuk 13y ago
        Nope. Just not a fan of adding piles of abstraction on top of something that just crawls already. To be honest I'd use a different language/platform if you need to use patterns like that where they perform (java/c#). Bit of a "no true scotsman" that one as well. Just because someone doesn't use Zend doesn't mean they write spaghetti.
- leapius 13y ago
  I'd like to know opinions on IPB actually.
- Pxtl 13y ago
  I'm actually stunned by the terrible quality of most bulletin-board software. It's telling that every forum I enjoy frequenting is one where the developers pulled a NIH and re-invented the wheel.

by cdr 13y ago

tluyben2 13y ago

Every time I open the admin interface shivers run down my spine. I don't understand how anyone can find that 'easy to work with'. I'm technical so maybe that's it. But you are right; the competition (at least it used to be; haven't needed any forums recently and the last one I made myself) was every far worse.

csmuk 13y ago

Please don't make excuses for it. I've had to deal with the multi-day aftermath of an XSS worm twice. That's when you realise that it's as bad as it is. After that it was "get fucked" and move to phpbb which while is not a stellar product it seems to be put together with a modicum of common sense and has a responsive community and support.

hfern 13y ago
What were your thoughts on XenForo?
- csmuk 13y ago
  Hell no. It's based on the Zend framework which is an even greater pile of rot!
  - sampk 13y ago
    For real? Oh a spaghetti fan I see.
    - csmuk 13y ago
      Nope. Just not a fan of adding piles of abstraction on top of something that just crawls already. To be honest I'd use a different language/platform if you need to use patterns like that where they perform (java/c#). Bit of a "no true scotsman" that one as well. Just because someone doesn't use Zend doesn't mean they write spaghetti.
leapius 13y ago
I'd like to know opinions on IPB actually.
Pxtl 13y ago
I'm actually stunned by the terrible quality of most bulletin-board software. It's telling that every forum I enjoy frequenting is one where the developers pulled a NIH and re-invented the wheel.