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> There is only one problem with elevating young people's tastes this way: Kids are often wrong. There is little evidence to support the idea that the youth hav

by yeukhon 13y ago

> There is only one problem with elevating young people's tastes this way: Kids are often wrong. There is little evidence to support the idea that the youth have any closer insight on the future than the rest of us do. And we grew out as kids and we actually were the one pushed social network and youtube to its fullness. High school kids and young college undergraduates are kids right? I remember Youtube back in 2005 when I was a freshman in HS. I agree that buying snapchat is a risky investment. In fact, I am not really sure if that's going to make Facebook stronger. What is Facebook lacking? One of my friends today said "John I like the new Facebook messenger update. It's pretty!" I agree with my friend the messenger app is getting better. But what is taking Facebook down? It's the way we share photo and videos. Frankly as someone who tries to become a successful security engineer, I can be lazy and agree to FB tracking me as long as my money isn't stolen. I can accept that and try to keep as little sensitive personal data like whether I am still a virgin away from the Internet. I can do that. Kids like me just want to enjoy socializing with friends and the Internet as much as possible. So if you own things like Instgram or whatever social app you have, integrate that fully into your product. Why is GIF still not supported in Facebook? I heard they used to support gif in the early days of Facebook. I am not saying there is an easy solution. I don't know and don't think anyone has any idea what would be the coolest yet functional comfortable interface Facebook should have. We need to focus on what people want to see. Facebook, GMail they are just becoming everyday's gadget. It is not exciting. Snapshot is exciting, maybe. Maybe it will continue but I know people soon or later will change to another one. We need to look at what FB messenger can't do that snapchat can.

coldtea 13y ago
>And we grew out as kids and we actually were the one pushed social network and youtube to its fullness. Not really. Youtube catters to all demographics and all ages. If there ever was a social network to speak to 50+ and 60+ as well as 20+ this would be it. So, no, there wasn't some swarth of "high school kids" and "young college undergraduates" pushing it to its fullness (what would that be?)
- lmm 13y ago
  The first popular youtubers back in '06 absolutely were "some swarth of "high school kids" and "young college undergraduates"". It found its way to other demographics and ages later.
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  - VLM 13y ago
    First line true. Second line completely false. One side of the argument is virtually all of the users are a multicultural swath of humanity, mostly adults. The other side of the argument is the largest unicultural subgroup of users was in 2006 HS/Uni kids, maybe as much as 5% of total users. The key being they were the largest single unicultural group. Both arguments are simultaneously true. There is no point repeating the two true statements to the "opposite" side. If you prefer a numerical argument, you've got 1K subgroups with 1K members each with little overlap, and one 10K member subgroup. The vast majority of the 1010K members are not in the 10K subgroup but are members of one of many 1K sized subgroups, and it is also simultaneously true that one subgroup is 10x the size of every other subgroup.
randomdata 13y ago
> I remember Youtube back in 2005 when I was a freshman in HS. To be fair, most will remember being introduced to it in that year. Youtube became a household name in 2005 after the Lazy Sunday video, with much fanfare, was published on the service and it became essentially the defacto place to watch it. I'm inclined to believe that productions by kids maintained the interest in the service beyond that point, but it was content produced by adults that popularized it in the first place. With possibly the exception of Facebook, I think you could say the same about most social networking services. Twitter only became interesting to the general public after adult celebrities started contributing. Myspace was popularized by adults promoting their musical groups. > What is Facebook lacking? A monopoly on photo sharing. Anyone who can take that traffic away increases the risks of taking people away from Facebook completely, and that is a huge risk for them. The insane valuations for these companies (Snapchat, Instagram, etc.) are cheap compared to having everyone leave Facebook for another service.

by yeukhon 13y ago

coldtea 13y ago

>And we grew out as kids and we actually were the one pushed social network and youtube to its fullness. Not really. Youtube catters to all demographics and all ages. If there ever was a social network to speak to 50+ and 60+ as well as 20+ this would be it. So, no, there wasn't some swarth of "high school kids" and "young college undergraduates" pushing it to its fullness (what would that be?)

lmm 13y ago
The first popular youtubers back in '06 absolutely were "some swarth of "high school kids" and "young college undergraduates"". It found its way to other demographics and ages later.
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- VLM 13y ago
  First line true. Second line completely false. One side of the argument is virtually all of the users are a multicultural swath of humanity, mostly adults. The other side of the argument is the largest unicultural subgroup of users was in 2006 HS/Uni kids, maybe as much as 5% of total users. The key being they were the largest single unicultural group. Both arguments are simultaneously true. There is no point repeating the two true statements to the "opposite" side. If you prefer a numerical argument, you've got 1K subgroups with 1K members each with little overlap, and one 10K member subgroup. The vast majority of the 1010K members are not in the 10K subgroup but are members of one of many 1K sized subgroups, and it is also simultaneously true that one subgroup is 10x the size of every other subgroup.

randomdata 13y ago

> I remember Youtube back in 2005 when I was a freshman in HS. To be fair, most will remember being introduced to it in that year. Youtube became a household name in 2005 after the Lazy Sunday video, with much fanfare, was published on the service and it became essentially the defacto place to watch it. I'm inclined to believe that productions by kids maintained the interest in the service beyond that point, but it was content produced by adults that popularized it in the first place. With possibly the exception of Facebook, I think you could say the same about most social networking services. Twitter only became interesting to the general public after adult celebrities started contributing. Myspace was popularized by adults promoting their musical groups. > What is Facebook lacking? A monopoly on photo sharing. Anyone who can take that traffic away increases the risks of taking people away from Facebook completely, and that is a huge risk for them. The insane valuations for these companies (Snapchat, Instagram, etc.) are cheap compared to having everyone leave Facebook for another service.