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Abandon Gmail for Outlook? Surely the author jests.

• adamwong246 13y ago
  That's what I said. Show me an alternative to gmail and I'll think about it but Outlook is one possibility I won't consider.
• snogglethorpe 13y ago
  His arguments are amazingly unconvincing, and he attempts to sweep by far the most important point for most people—whether or not Gmail is a good mail client or not—away with random hand-waving: "Meanwhile, its interface is as stale and frustrating as ever". Er, no, David, it's not (and never was). Where does ZDNET find these bozos? As far as I can tell, this is ZDNET hastily attempting to get some clicks by pandering to the youtube rage-quitting brigade. Business as usual for them I suppose, but why do people post this crap to HN?
  • na85 13y ago
    I've been downmodded heavily elsewhere onsite for suggesting that HNers love to hate google because of hipster mentality, so that clearly can't be it...
    • alwaysinshade 13y ago
      I'd say I'm a hipster, but I still like Google. I think you would have been down-voted for shitcanning hipsters (the implication is that rage-quitting Google's services it's fashionable and they're sheep) rather than you being correct that it's due to hipster mentality. In a way, shitcanning hipsters is fashionable, so we're all treading the same ground. Let's all have a beer together and chill out, just mind the beards. Disclaimer: I don't have a beard
    • ars_technician 13y ago
      >I've been downmodded heavily elsewhere onsite for suggesting that HNers love to hate google because of hipster mentality Because it's a stupid reason. You would get the same response if you suggested that the reason was that HNers love to hate google because they hate logos with color in them.
      • na85 13y ago
        I think that if you examine the meta on HN dispassionately you'll see it's actually a very good reason. It often gets couched in different language, but a great deal of HNers have a large dislike of HN because of either groupthink or mainstream-aversion.
    • pyre 13y ago
      > I've been downmodded [...] for suggesting [...] because of hipster mentality That's probably your problem right there. You're attempting to apply a negative label ('hipster') to a group of people with whom you disagree. If your only counter-point to someone is to 'suggest' that they only hold a particular view because it's trendy, then you're going to run into issues.
    • ksk 13y ago
      Whats wrong with not liking Google? I don't like them. Then again I don't like most corporations. Unfortunately Google also being an advertising company gets double my hate.
  • joelrunyon 13y ago
    > "Meanwhile, its interface is as stale and frustrating as ever" The UX redesign from a couple months back was definitely one of the triggers pushing me to look for alternate services.
• dmourati 13y ago
  Outlook, that was worth a good chuckle.
• skittles 13y ago
  No. Outlook.com, which is hotmail rebranded. It's pretty good.
  • na85 13y ago
    See, "hotmail rebranded" doesn't sound like a selling point to me. Years ago, I joined gmail specifically to get away from the awful hotmail UI.
    • ProAm 13y ago
      It's been awhile and vast improvements have been made. Outlook.com is legitimate these days.
    • danishabdullah 13y ago
      "Years ago"!!
• joelrunyon 13y ago
  I think using the "live" domain is a better branding strategy for MS. That said - I recently opened an account there & it's pretty slick.