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"Companies like Yahoo and Microsoft; i.e viewed as stodgy old companies that aren't great places to work." For what reasons is Microsoft not a great place to w

"Companies like Yahoo and Microsoft; i.e viewed as stodgy old companies that aren't great places to work." For what reasons is Microsoft not a great place to work? I may be biased because my brother works there full-time and a friend is interning there but both of them very much enjoy it.

IBM 13y ago
My comment about them is how they're perceived in the industry, in reality they may be great places to work.
- MAGZine 13y ago
  Other than stack-ranking thing/general office politics, I don't really have a negative preception of Microsoft. Is this a supposed-perception, or an actual perception? I don't know anything about Yahoo!, but my perceptions of them are still positive. If you have an awful work environment, people will just go elsewhere. especially if you're qualified to work at either company.
  - yuhong 13y ago
    I think they were referring to the 1990s when MS was a lot worse than the Google of today. MS did a lot of unethical attacks against competitors during that period (my favorite is the MS OS/2 2.0 fiasco).
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- mhurron 13y ago
  > perceived in the industry This would be more how their perceived by hobbiests and people who work at startups. For people who want to work at large companies or are willing to work at established companies it doesn't seem true. Personally, I've only heard negatives about working at MS from people who have been there for a while, new employees are happy and excited to be there.
curiousDog 13y ago
Exactly. Microsoft is still a great place to work. If anything IBM might be a boring place to work given that they're pretty much an IT company now. And Microsoft is definitely a league above Yahoo. Still has great people and where else in the world can you choose to work on quantum computation, the kernel, distributed systems, programming languages, machine learning, search, NLP, browsers, databases, CRM, BI, Computer vision, hardware..within the same company? There's a reason Google, Facebook et al have setup offices in the Kirkland/Seattle area.

IBM 13y ago

My comment about them is how they're perceived in the industry, in reality they may be great places to work.

MAGZine 13y ago
Other than stack-ranking thing/general office politics, I don't really have a negative preception of Microsoft. Is this a supposed-perception, or an actual perception? I don't know anything about Yahoo!, but my perceptions of them are still positive. If you have an awful work environment, people will just go elsewhere. especially if you're qualified to work at either company.
- yuhong 13y ago
  I think they were referring to the 1990s when MS was a lot worse than the Google of today. MS did a lot of unethical attacks against competitors during that period (my favorite is the MS OS/2 2.0 fiasco).
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mhurron 13y ago
> perceived in the industry This would be more how their perceived by hobbiests and people who work at startups. For people who want to work at large companies or are willing to work at established companies it doesn't seem true. Personally, I've only heard negatives about working at MS from people who have been there for a while, new employees are happy and excited to be there.

curiousDog 13y ago

Exactly. Microsoft is still a great place to work. If anything IBM might be a boring place to work given that they're pretty much an IT company now. And Microsoft is definitely a league above Yahoo. Still has great people and where else in the world can you choose to work on quantum computation, the kernel, distributed systems, programming languages, machine learning, search, NLP, browsers, databases, CRM, BI, Computer vision, hardware..within the same company? There's a reason Google, Facebook et al have setup offices in the Kirkland/Seattle area.