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> burning every other Google service and product to the ground I think this is a massive exaggeration. The people who don't care about linking their accounts (
by IanCal 13y ago
> burning every other Google service and product to the ground
I think this is a massive exaggeration. The people who don't care about linking their accounts (like me) aren't filling up the front page of HN with "The google plus thing is fine I guess" stories. I don't care if they ask for my phone number, I've got an Android phone so the data is all already there, and I like the security of having it text me to check it's actually me signing in from some new computer.
I genuinely find the level of complaints embarrassing. I've seen someone call being asked to create a G+ account "sickening". Sickening. What an astonishing first world problem, that one of the worst things happening to them is being asked to sign up for a free account with a company you already have a free account with. The horror!
- dredmorbius 13y agoIf you think it's a first-world problem, ask yourself what the situation in a third-world or repressive government would be where all search and email traffic would be individually assignable and identifiable as it passed through the national firewall and surveillance systems.
- IanCal 13y agoWhat? It's the same sodding data, passed to the same company, how does merging two accounts that they already know are linked change anything? Also, you can search without logging in, and sign up for as many different email accounts as you want. Are you honestly saying that google asking you to make a G+ account is a serious problem for activists?
- chilldream 13y agoI take it you missed this: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115668950429167517685/posts/hTe4AZ8rqtd https://plus.google.com/u/0/115668950429167517685/posts/hTe4...
- IanCal 13y agoI'm entirely confused by this. I have my G+ account linked with youtube. Just now I unlinked them, and changed the visible name from one that was obviously mine to a more anonymous name and posted a comment with absolutely no issue. No picture, no name, no link to me. And this is from after linking the accounts and then unlinking them (which took under a minute to do and was pretty easy to find).
- nisa 13y agoThis option is not available for me. I can't disconnect my Youtube account without deleting Google+. I also found no way to create a pseudonymous page for my Youtube Account. And I've found no way to delete my Youtube account. After searching and looking around in the user forums for some time I've gave up.
- IanCal 13y agoDoes this link not work for you: http://www.youtube.com/account_revert http://www.youtube.com/account_revert For me this link appears under the general account settings on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/account http://www.youtube.com/account This is what my account settings page looks like: http://i.imgur.com/NrEnfyY.png http://i.imgur.com/NrEnfyY.png I changed from my real name to somenamefortestingpurposes, and seem to be able to change this to anything else. I've also tested posting comments with this, and they don't appear with my real name. I also have the option of deleting my "channel" which I think is pretty much the same as deleting my youtube presence.
- nisa 13y agoFunny. Your first link returns http://www.youtube.com/oops http://www.youtube.com/oops and I don't have these options under general account settings: http://i.imgur.com/yOny4pC.png http://i.imgur.com/yOny4pC.png What works for Youtube is to create another channel and use that channel and the created page to post comments via pseudonym. I can switch between my original Google Account and the newly created channel. I don't have an option for my primary account through. For this does not matter but if you had personal data in your old Youtube account there is no easy way to hide this information without loosing Google+ as far I understood that problem now.
- dredmorbius 13y agoThe accounts weren't "already linked". They shared some metadata. I was asked if I wanted to link them. I responded "no". Multiple times. Persisting when someone says "no" is at best, disrespect, at worst abuse and, in the right contexts, rape. Oh, did I mention I'd organized an ad-hoc anti-harassment policy discussion on G+ at the suggestion of Yonatan Zunger? Irony, it's got an enduring entertainment value. Oddly enough, I was fine with a G+ account, in fact, that's pretty much the only part of Google I'd been using any more. The YouTube account was just to access videos, and I'd pretty much gotten used to purging its history regularly. The actual harm to me? Pretty little. Both accounts were pseudonymous. For other people, not nearly so little. And the message on Google's respect for its users and trustworthiness? Loud and clear: nil and nil.
- IanCal 13y ago> Persisting when someone says "no" is at best, disrespect, at worst abuse and, in the right contexts, rape. I'm not sure I can continue to debate the problems of linking multiple google products together when a comparison is rape. Instead I'm simply going to repeat my original statement > I genuinely find the level of complaints embarrassing.
- derscheister 13y agoWhat kind of crazy idiot are you? Seriously? Rape? Slightly deranged or what?
- coldtea 13y agoCalling the other names for making a (non offensive to anyone in particular) remark, just because he used a notion your particular culture finds "taboo"? Not to mention the irony of being offended by the mere use of the word "rape" (to correctly describe the feeling of being continuously probed after repeteadly saying "no", without trying to offend anyone), while in the same time you find it acceptable to comment on his mental state ("crazy idiot", "deranged" etc), as if mental health issues are funny. Is that what you consider responsible behavior? Or were you just conditioned to think people using the "r" word are to be prosecuted, however innocent and justified their use?