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I own a tablet and I think that Vista really shines there. The tablet input id amazingly well integrated and the overall user experience is great. (I have the

I own a tablet and I think that Vista really shines there. The tablet input id amazingly well integrated and the overall user experience is great. (I have the X61t, which I think is quite possibly the nicest piece of kit ever. Silly mac users will never understand ;))

listic 17y ago
How does tablet input feel like? You have to use a special stylys, don't you? What is the CPU, is it LV or ULV and how is the battery life? This is the field where I find all of the existing notebooks lacking. I wish manufacturers have addressed this problem, at least used the existing ULV CPUs! That said, I'm happy with my X60s, maybe it and the tablets are even the nicest pieces of kit ever, but they could have been made so much better!
- warfangle 17y ago
  What does battery life have to do with tablet inputs? Tablets (at least, the typical kind and not the kind with built-in screens like the Wacom Cintiq) use relatively little power (much less than, say, charging your phone via USB). Different tablets use different technology. The Wacom tablets use an inductive charge (from the tablet itself) to charge a capacitor on the pen. This means that yes, you need a special stylus. However, because of it, you can get much more precise location and pressure readings. You also don't need to change any batteries in the stylus, as it's powered "over the air."
  - DougBTX 17y ago
    (I assume he was thinking tablet input => MS TabletPC)
    - ben_straub 17y ago
      Something like 95% of TabletPC's use a Wacom panel for the pen input, and those panels have similar characteristics to the Wacom consumer tablets and Cintiqs.
  - ben_straub 17y ago
    Well said; I work at Wacom, and I don't think I could have explained it better. :) Powering the pen does consume some energy, but I believe the panels used for TabletPCs can actually be classified as "Low-Power" USB devices, so the drain isn't nearly as much as, say, the hard drive. I'm not sure how efficient the Windows Ink code is, but our driver, which hasn't taken extreme pains to be performant, peaks at about 3% of a 1GHz CPU when the pen is in range.
  - listic 17y ago
    What does battery life have to do with tablet inputs? Oh, nothing. There are two distinct questions of usability that I'm interested in. Except, that X60t tablet is different model form X60 laptop and may use different CPU and battery model, which of course impacts battery life.
- litewulf 17y ago
  Mine has both stylus and touch. The touch is really so-so, but mostly because normal desktop UIs aren't so good with such a large "pointer". I think you have your answer for power consumption, but I think my tablet is in the same general range as your X60s and probably there will be more variance depending on usage patterns. My two batteries lasted a full day of class using onenote and occasional hops on wifi to download notes, etc.
  - listic 17y ago
    You have a spare battery that you swap, right?
    - litewulf 17y ago
      Yes. I believe you can get a second battery in the drive bay, but that'd kind of hurt the whole portability aspect.
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ensignavenger 17y ago
Win7 has some great new tablet features, too.

listic 17y ago

How does tablet input feel like? You have to use a special stylys, don't you? What is the CPU, is it LV or ULV and how is the battery life? This is the field where I find all of the existing notebooks lacking. I wish manufacturers have addressed this problem, at least used the existing ULV CPUs! That said, I'm happy with my X60s, maybe it and the tablets are even the nicest pieces of kit ever, but they could have been made so much better!

warfangle 17y ago
What does battery life have to do with tablet inputs? Tablets (at least, the typical kind and not the kind with built-in screens like the Wacom Cintiq) use relatively little power (much less than, say, charging your phone via USB). Different tablets use different technology. The Wacom tablets use an inductive charge (from the tablet itself) to charge a capacitor on the pen. This means that yes, you need a special stylus. However, because of it, you can get much more precise location and pressure readings. You also don't need to change any batteries in the stylus, as it's powered "over the air."
- DougBTX 17y ago
  (I assume he was thinking tablet input => MS TabletPC)
  - ben_straub 17y ago
    Something like 95% of TabletPC's use a Wacom panel for the pen input, and those panels have similar characteristics to the Wacom consumer tablets and Cintiqs.
- ben_straub 17y ago
  Well said; I work at Wacom, and I don't think I could have explained it better. :) Powering the pen does consume some energy, but I believe the panels used for TabletPCs can actually be classified as "Low-Power" USB devices, so the drain isn't nearly as much as, say, the hard drive. I'm not sure how efficient the Windows Ink code is, but our driver, which hasn't taken extreme pains to be performant, peaks at about 3% of a 1GHz CPU when the pen is in range.
- listic 17y ago
  What does battery life have to do with tablet inputs? Oh, nothing. There are two distinct questions of usability that I'm interested in. Except, that X60t tablet is different model form X60 laptop and may use different CPU and battery model, which of course impacts battery life.
litewulf 17y ago
Mine has both stylus and touch. The touch is really so-so, but mostly because normal desktop UIs aren't so good with such a large "pointer". I think you have your answer for power consumption, but I think my tablet is in the same general range as your X60s and probably there will be more variance depending on usage patterns. My two batteries lasted a full day of class using onenote and occasional hops on wifi to download notes, etc.
- listic 17y ago
  You have a spare battery that you swap, right?
  - litewulf 17y ago
    Yes. I believe you can get a second battery in the drive bay, but that'd kind of hurt the whole portability aspect.

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ensignavenger 17y ago

Win7 has some great new tablet features, too.