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Parodies are usually funny because they're true. The citations in HN comments are some of the most valuable contributions to the site. This whole post is depr

Parodies are usually funny because they're true. The citations in HN comments are some of the most valuable contributions to the site. This whole post is depressing. Far from lighthearted fun, these comments all have an undercurrent of hostility ("wannabe-academic"). The mosaic formed by these comments imply pg has harmed the world by creating HN. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example.

nzmsv 13y ago
I had in mind the kind of format that in effect says "really, I think you are too dumb to use Google" rather than someone pointing out an actual useful resource or a place for further reading. If the reference took some non-trivial research to find, it is of course welcome and useful. The too-obvious Wikipedia link is an attempt to imitate references of the useful variety with the intent of appearing sophisticated.
Bahamut 13y ago
I think 4chan has harmed the world a lot more than HN shrug.
- yen223 13y ago
  I like how, in a thread parodying HN comments, one 4-channer still managed to complain about "white-knighting".
nzmsv 13y ago
You are reading too much into these comments, I think. Just because there are some annoyances on HN doesn't mean it is the embodiment of pure evil. > Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example. A better HN. It is possible: HN was such a place a couple years ago. And it can only get worse if the community keeps taking itself too seriously to allow even light-hearted criticism.
benched 13y ago
Nonsense. The world can always use another joke. It's rough out there.
goronbjorn 13y ago
> Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example. Outside, maybe?
praptak 13y ago
Coming unprepared to 4chan and reading its take on anything (including 4chan itself) leads to the conclusion that it harms the world and its creators should be ashamed of the fact they haven't committed suicide yet.
- jlgreco 13y ago
  What a vile thing to say. Then again, this is 4chan, so I shouldn't be supri...oh nope. I switched back to the HN tab. This is praptak, pretending to be high and mighty on HN, proving himself wrong in the same breath.
anigbrowl 13y ago
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seszett 13y ago
> Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example. If you're saying that, I think you're actually part of the problem. Don't get your news and discussions from only one place on the web. There are lots more and it doesn't cost you anything visiting other places and reading comments from other people. The only risk is reading elsewhere something that didn't get to HN's frontpage.
roel_v 13y ago
A wikipedia link is not a citation.
- Karunamon 13y ago
  Depends on the context. HN is not a scientific journal.
eli_gottlieb 13y ago
Slashdot?
ugexe 13y ago
So you think its fine for a news site to only cover the ~10 topics covered by the various 4chan complaints? Do you blog on a node.js powered meteor ported to go with beatz by dre too?
peterashford 13y ago
I think that HN is hostile (and that this is PG's fault) but that doesn't make it useless.

nzmsv 13y ago

I had in mind the kind of format that in effect says "really, I think you are too dumb to use Google" rather than someone pointing out an actual useful resource or a place for further reading. If the reference took some non-trivial research to find, it is of course welcome and useful. The too-obvious Wikipedia link is an attempt to imitate references of the useful variety with the intent of appearing sophisticated.

Bahamut 13y ago

I think 4chan has harmed the world a lot more than HN shrug.

yen223 13y ago
I like how, in a thread parodying HN comments, one 4-channer still managed to complain about "white-knighting".

nzmsv 13y ago

You are reading too much into these comments, I think. Just because there are some annoyances on HN doesn't mean it is the embodiment of pure evil. > Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example. A better HN. It is possible: HN was such a place a couple years ago. And it can only get worse if the community keeps taking itself too seriously to allow even light-hearted criticism.

benched 13y ago

Nonsense. The world can always use another joke. It's rough out there.

goronbjorn 13y ago

> Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example. Outside, maybe?

praptak 13y ago

Coming unprepared to 4chan and reading its take on anything (including 4chan itself) leads to the conclusion that it harms the world and its creators should be ashamed of the fact they haven't committed suicide yet.

jlgreco 13y ago
What a vile thing to say. Then again, this is 4chan, so I shouldn't be supri...oh nope. I switched back to the HN tab. This is praptak, pretending to be high and mighty on HN, proving himself wrong in the same breath.

anigbrowl 13y ago

ಠ_ರೃ

seszett 13y ago

> Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example. If you're saying that, I think you're actually part of the problem. Don't get your news and discussions from only one place on the web. There are lots more and it doesn't cost you anything visiting other places and reading comments from other people. The only risk is reading elsewhere something that didn't get to HN's frontpage.

roel_v 13y ago

A wikipedia link is not a citation.

Karunamon 13y ago
Depends on the context. HN is not a scientific journal.

eli_gottlieb 13y ago

Slashdot?

ugexe 13y ago

So you think its fine for a news site to only cover the ~10 topics covered by the various 4chan complaints? Do you blog on a node.js powered meteor ported to go with beatz by dre too?

peterashford 13y ago

I think that HN is hostile (and that this is PG's fault) but that doesn't make it useless.