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In this hypothetical situation, if your boss is calling you at 7PM the day before a meeting, you've already lost. Either your boss should have had the good gra

In this hypothetical situation, if your boss is calling you at 7PM the day before a meeting, you've already lost. Either your boss should have had the good graces to give you a better heads up, or s/he is going to have to be a big boy, suck it up and either do it themselves or go without for the meeting because you're off the clock.

Spooky23 13y ago
Good luck with this attitude in the real world unless you're a unionized hourly worker. In the real world, you're an at-will, exempt employee. So unless you're so special that you have the ability to tell your boss to f-off without worrying about the consequences, you're going to be updating that spreadsheet.
- acjohnson55 13y ago
  You don't have to be special. You just have to have a skillset and knowledge base that's difficult enough to replace that people treat you with a modicum of respect. If the place isn't burning to the ground, I don't think it's unreasonable to push back.
  - mcguire 13y ago
    "a skillset and knowledge base that's difficult enough to replace" That would be the definition of special.
    - acjohnson55 13y ago
      I guess it depends on how low your bar for calling something "special" is. I would put on two different levels someone who truly has a "special" skillset vs. someone who is simply very effective and in whom the company has a sunk investment.
- pyrocat 13y ago
  Or don't give your boss your cell phone number?
- rfnslyr 13y ago
  Don't be an apologist for bad management and bad people skills. If a boss or management ever called me and requested me to do a task on my own time, not company time, I'd politely refuse for obvious reasons. It's okay as a one time thing, "Hey David sorry to bother you at 7 but could you do me a huge favour and do X and Y? My bad I'll buy you lunch tomorrow" then yeah that's fine. But if it's spoken with any hint of authority or consequence they can fuck off.
- showsover 13y ago
  That's in America. In Europe employees have a bit more to say.

Spooky23 13y ago

Good luck with this attitude in the real world unless you're a unionized hourly worker. In the real world, you're an at-will, exempt employee. So unless you're so special that you have the ability to tell your boss to f-off without worrying about the consequences, you're going to be updating that spreadsheet.

acjohnson55 13y ago
You don't have to be special. You just have to have a skillset and knowledge base that's difficult enough to replace that people treat you with a modicum of respect. If the place isn't burning to the ground, I don't think it's unreasonable to push back.
- mcguire 13y ago
  "a skillset and knowledge base that's difficult enough to replace" That would be the definition of special.
  - acjohnson55 13y ago
    I guess it depends on how low your bar for calling something "special" is. I would put on two different levels someone who truly has a "special" skillset vs. someone who is simply very effective and in whom the company has a sunk investment.
pyrocat 13y ago
Or don't give your boss your cell phone number?
rfnslyr 13y ago
Don't be an apologist for bad management and bad people skills. If a boss or management ever called me and requested me to do a task on my own time, not company time, I'd politely refuse for obvious reasons. It's okay as a one time thing, "Hey David sorry to bother you at 7 but could you do me a huge favour and do X and Y? My bad I'll buy you lunch tomorrow" then yeah that's fine. But if it's spoken with any hint of authority or consequence they can fuck off.
showsover 13y ago
That's in America. In Europe employees have a bit more to say.