Dude, before you get too deep - use Kohana; it doesn't shackle you and it is quite powerful. I tried Cake, Symphony, and Zend Framework - they are all quite st

Dude, before you get too deep - use Kohana; it doesn't shackle you and it is quite powerful. I tried Cake, Symphony, and Zend Framework - they are all quite strong but Cake and Symphony make you build your app 'their way', Zend Framework is looser than the others (more a collection of libraries) but is bloated, slow, and over-engineered. My opinion is biased because I am a core developer. Kohana's i18n system is pretty intuitive too. http://www.kohanaphp.com http://www.kohanaphp.com