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Yea I was using MySQL on RDS just to escape the Heroku monolith. Funny that Heroku announced a new Postgres pricing model that is VERY expensive compared to old
by fat0wl 13y ago
Yea I was using MySQL on RDS just to escape the Heroku monolith. Funny that Heroku announced a new Postgres pricing model that is VERY expensive compared to old setup (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6712570 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6712570) just in time to be wiped off the map by RDS.
- fat0wl 13y agohey who downvoted this without replying?! Last time I badmouthed Heroku on here I got a reply from one of their employees asking me to fill out support tickets for errors I was getting in their apps...... O_o they're watching.
- avenger123 13y agoNo one's watching. Your initial comment just really didn't add any value. Calling Heroku monolith compared to Amazon is an understatement and I don't see Heroku being "wiped off the map" from this.
- ceejayoz 13y agohttps://twitter.com/scottvdp/status/401111184092315648 https://twitter.com/scottvdp/status/401111184092315648 > RDS 4XL vs Heroku Mecha: 40% cheaper on demand, 74% cheaper 1 year reserved, 82% cheaper 3 year reserved... with more features and capacity. If that's true, Heroku's Postgres offering isn't going to do well. "Wiped off the map" may be an overstatement, but not by that much.
- fat0wl 13y agoIf you listen closely you can hear the sound of an army of devteams uploading DB exports to Amazon.... & it would be louder if the rest could figure out where to put the custom DB URL parameter ;D
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- fat0wl 13y agoI wasn't calling Heroku a monolith because they're a huge company -- it's because they suck you in & then youre forever stuck in their web of services. I bet they start bleeding a lot of money now that there is an easy-to-use alternative for Postgres hosting on a well-known platform. Heroku epitomizes the idea of overcharge + vendor lock-in & people only put up with their high prices because they don't have the time to figure out a better configuration. Database is the easiest thing to jump ship with, you just have to change 1 URL. It's a shame that Amazon has some proprietary idea of a machine image, but my ideal hosting scenario is just App Server Machine Image + DB + any Machine Images required for extra services. Shouldn't have to choose between several paid services that are just different APIs into an app server component you should have direct access to. I don't understand how the open source community can be so into Heroku given that it's basically just wrapping open source software & charging for it, getting away with it by saying they're charging for the admin UI or whatever.
- avenger123 13y agoFair enough. Looks like not a lot of love for Heroku for you. This could be a nice fire under Heroku's ass to get more competitive.
- eli 13y agoHard to compete with your main supplier, no?
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- rpedela 13y agoJust like AWS, you pay Heroku to simplify your system administration. You don't have to like Heroku's product but there is a place for it. I do not use Heroku but it makes total sense if you have an app you need to deploy and you don't know system admin, don't want to do system admin yourself, or can't afford a system admin. GitHub just "wraps up" git and charges for it and I am happy to pay them. Setting up a git server is a royal pain in the ass. Setting up a wiki, issue tracker, etc to go along with a git server is even more of a pain in the ass. Well done cloud services make life simpler, and many people will pay for that simplicity regardless of how the internals are built.
- eonil 13y agoAlso Heroku is not available in Japan region. Simply funny.