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I hope no one buys this. Hit back at Renault where it hurts the most.

kubiiii 13y ago
I think no one buys it anyway. I saw two of them here in Bordeaux and one of them was the store demo model.
rtpg 13y ago
They seem to be killing this car intentionally. You can't use wall plugs to charge, and the battery rental stuff is also a mess. Apparently they were trying to sell 40k in 6 months, and only ended up selling 10k.
- mjolk 13y ago
  The fact that they were able to hock 10k makes me sad for the state of the global society.
  - tomrod 13y ago
    Crew and fleet cars, like rentals or corporate cars I would think.
  - rtpg 13y ago
    can you explain why? DRM might be important for some people, but weighed against their primary mode of transportation, I feel like it's a values concession I'd be slightly willing to make (making it clear I'd be willing to go for an alternative).
    - mjolk 13y ago
      I more or less cover it in this reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6732192 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6732192 The world needs to stop giving in to corporate control schemes.
- nodata 13y ago
  Can a standard wall plug normally charge an electric car?
  - hmottestad 13y ago
    Yes. However some people have had trouble with using long extension cords. http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devastating-design http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-te...
    - bhousel 13y ago
      Don't see where in that link the extension cord issue is mentioned. I don't think anyone can fault a car manufacturer for this issue. Long extension cord with too small gauge wire will cause voltage drop. It's the same for any electrical load. Actually now that I think about it, I guess they could include dynamic power factor correction in their charging hardware and software. But it seems like a silly extra expense just to correct for someone buying a cheap extension cord. I think my 100 foot 10awg cord that I used to power the neighbor's stuff after Hurricane Sandy was under $100.
      - lanaius 13y ago
        "Complete discharge can happen even when the car is plugged in if it isn’t receiving sufficient current to charge, which can be caused by something as simple as using an extension cord. " Just to clarify the conversation.
      - protomyth 13y ago
        Yep, using the same care in choosing an extension cord as you would for work equipment and space heaters would be advisable with electric cars. Do not buy the cheapy cord.
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I think no one buys it anyway. I saw two of them here in Bordeaux and one of them was the store demo model.

rtpg 13y ago

They seem to be killing this car intentionally. You can't use wall plugs to charge, and the battery rental stuff is also a mess. Apparently they were trying to sell 40k in 6 months, and only ended up selling 10k.

mjolk 13y ago
The fact that they were able to hock 10k makes me sad for the state of the global society.
- tomrod 13y ago
  Crew and fleet cars, like rentals or corporate cars I would think.
- rtpg 13y ago
  can you explain why? DRM might be important for some people, but weighed against their primary mode of transportation, I feel like it's a values concession I'd be slightly willing to make (making it clear I'd be willing to go for an alternative).
  - mjolk 13y ago
    I more or less cover it in this reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6732192 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6732192 The world needs to stop giving in to corporate control schemes.
nodata 13y ago
Can a standard wall plug normally charge an electric car?
- hmottestad 13y ago
  Yes. However some people have had trouble with using long extension cords. http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-tesla-motors-devastating-design http://theunderstatement.com/post/18030062041/its-a-brick-te...
  - bhousel 13y ago
    Don't see where in that link the extension cord issue is mentioned. I don't think anyone can fault a car manufacturer for this issue. Long extension cord with too small gauge wire will cause voltage drop. It's the same for any electrical load. Actually now that I think about it, I guess they could include dynamic power factor correction in their charging hardware and software. But it seems like a silly extra expense just to correct for someone buying a cheap extension cord. I think my 100 foot 10awg cord that I used to power the neighbor's stuff after Hurricane Sandy was under $100.
    - lanaius 13y ago
      "Complete discharge can happen even when the car is plugged in if it isn’t receiving sufficient current to charge, which can be caused by something as simple as using an extension cord. " Just to clarify the conversation.
    - protomyth 13y ago
      Yep, using the same care in choosing an extension cord as you would for work equipment and space heaters would be advisable with electric cars. Do not buy the cheapy cord.
- deleted 13y ago
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