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The $179 price is total bullshit. In Brazil, where the phone was actually launched (and being produced), the price is US$279 (8GB) and US$343 (16GB). Not that
by pandeiro 13y ago
The $179 price is total bullshit. In Brazil, where the phone was actually launched (and being produced), the price is US$279 (8GB) and US$343 (16GB).
Not that I, as a Brazilian consumer, am not used to getting dicked on hardware prices for everything. But reading $179 over and over again is kind of making me want to punch my screen.
- differentView 13y agoHow much are iPhone 5S, Nexus 5, HTC One, and Galaxy S4 in Brazil?
- pandeiro 13y agoPrices simply too obscene to mention on family-oriented hackernews
- r4pha 13y agoIphone 5 - Starts at 2.299 BRL (~980 USD) for the 16GB and goes to 2.899 BRL (~1242 USD). I kid you not [0]. [0]: http://i.imgur.com/EEeTi6G.png http://i.imgur.com/EEeTi6G.png
- frooxie 13y agoThe Nexus 5 started at $780 in Norway. I'm pretty envious of the US prices.
- Raphael 13y ago$179 before import duty.
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- mtgx 13y agoNot really Google's fault. Also they are announcing prices for US. Just assume prices in other countries will be ~30-50 percent higher.
- ericd 13y agoYou realize that that's because of your government's extremely high incentives to manufacture in Brazil, right?
- dlisboa 13y agoThe Moto G is manufactured in Brazil and is priced as if it was imported. In fact, perhaps as a slap in the face of the consumer, it's priced exactly as if it was imported. There's a 60% importation tax, which means that importing a 179 dollar phone goes for exactly 650 reais, which is what they're pricing it. So, no, it's not because of taxes. Unless the cost of production in Brazil is precisely 60% the price of production in the US, this is just plain markup on a market used to it, so they abuse it while still being below the other high-markup devices.
- fpgeek 13y agoThere are a lot of non-abusive reasons why Motorola might start by pricing the Moto G as if it were imported, even if most of them will be manufactured locally. For instance, depending on how far along local production is, Motorola may well have imported launch stock. Or Motorola may be worried they'll end up stuck between importing stock or leaving sales on the table if they underestimated Brazilian demand. Or maybe there are issues with some imported parts or ... Once they reach a steady-state where they can forecast demand and Brazil is comfortably a net exporter of Moto Gs, it should be different, but, in the short run, Motorola has sensible reasons to be cautious.
- nknighthb 13y agoUS advertised prices do not include sales/VAT taxes, which I gather are quite substantial in Brazil.
- dlisboa 13y agoVAT in Brazil is lower than in the UK. It's not really substantial, not as to explain a 100 dollar increase in a product. There are other taxes that are levied on production and sale (the VAT equivalent is just one), but the complexity of the tributary system is used as an excuse by electronics producers for the increased prices. It's a huge effort in dark math to explain the prices these companies put up. There's a lot of "blame the government" and people love to do that, not enough "we're being ripped off by these companies". Even products with massive tax brakes are among the most expensive in the world. It's not solely a tributary or legislative issue.
- nknighthb 13y agohttp://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/23/world/americas/samples-of-sales-taxes-on-products-in-brazil.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/07/23/world/americas...
- someperson 13y agoThe announcement event was in Brazil. I'm sure the price will be around there, given the phone is being produced there