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Its been 'fast tracked' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_track_(trade) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_track_(trade)).

brianpgordon 13y ago
Why would Congress pass legislation saying that it's not allowed to amend trade agreements? Why don't they just not amend trade agreements?
- wonderyak 13y ago
  its hard for me to think of an answer to this question that doesn't somehow devolve into an area of 'conspiracy'-type BS. I really do not know.
  - kelvin0 13y ago
    Why are alternatives to the current mainstream stories have to be 'devolving' into anything?
    - wonderyak 13y ago
      In this situation its probably a matter of 'don't attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity'? OTOH - the mainstream media is not reporting on this at all. Doing a search for 'trans pacific partnership' on CNN - the first result is a story about the G-20 Summit on Jul. 15th. The more you look at, investigate and try and understand this story the crazier you may seem to other people.
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- saraid216 13y ago
  We're talking about the several-hundred-member body of people whose very job is to argue with each other? The one whose membership is up for modification every few years? The one whose purpose it is to create rules that persist across changes in membership? That Congress?
  - brianpgordon 13y ago
    But the new Congress can just as easily pass legislation to invalidate the previous legislation.
    - saraid216 13y ago
      Yes, just like judicial precedent doesn't exist whatsoever because any judge can overturn any decision when given the opportunity. Also, we rewrite the Constitution because Amendments allow us to. It's just that we do it so fast and then change it back that you don't even notice.
- patmcc 13y ago
  Congress now != congress in 2 years, remember.
  - rev_null 13y ago
    Yes, Congress now is only ~90% of what congress will be in 2 years.
- vidarh 13y ago
  Because it makes it very easy for individual members to hold their hands up and say "there was nothing I could do" about things they would like to pass but know might prove unpopular. And it minimizes the window for the public to mobilize opposition.

brianpgordon 13y ago

Why would Congress pass legislation saying that it's not allowed to amend trade agreements? Why don't they just not amend trade agreements?

wonderyak 13y ago
its hard for me to think of an answer to this question that doesn't somehow devolve into an area of 'conspiracy'-type BS. I really do not know.
- kelvin0 13y ago
  Why are alternatives to the current mainstream stories have to be 'devolving' into anything?
  - wonderyak 13y ago
    In this situation its probably a matter of 'don't attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity'? OTOH - the mainstream media is not reporting on this at all. Doing a search for 'trans pacific partnership' on CNN - the first result is a story about the G-20 Summit on Jul. 15th. The more you look at, investigate and try and understand this story the crazier you may seem to other people.
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saraid216 13y ago
We're talking about the several-hundred-member body of people whose very job is to argue with each other? The one whose membership is up for modification every few years? The one whose purpose it is to create rules that persist across changes in membership? That Congress?
- brianpgordon 13y ago
  But the new Congress can just as easily pass legislation to invalidate the previous legislation.
  - saraid216 13y ago
    Yes, just like judicial precedent doesn't exist whatsoever because any judge can overturn any decision when given the opportunity. Also, we rewrite the Constitution because Amendments allow us to. It's just that we do it so fast and then change it back that you don't even notice.
patmcc 13y ago
Congress now != congress in 2 years, remember.
- rev_null 13y ago
  Yes, Congress now is only ~90% of what congress will be in 2 years.
vidarh 13y ago
Because it makes it very easy for individual members to hold their hands up and say "there was nothing I could do" about things they would like to pass but know might prove unpopular. And it minimizes the window for the public to mobilize opposition.