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Wandering around Naggum's web site I wonder what will happen to his work when his domain expires? What will happen to our work when we die? Is there a place f

Wandering around Naggum's web site I wonder what will happen to his work when his domain expires? What will happen to our work when we die? Is there a place for people already gone where we can go and see their work as they left it when they died? Kind of a graveyard but without the creepiness? I would like to have access to all the work from [insert hacker name here], if he makes it available, or if he so wishes in his will. I wish my site would be up (not that I have one) forever for everybody to see, and read, and copy, and do stuff with whatever I left. Wishing somebody may finish whatever we left unfinished...

hernan7 17y ago
FWIW, I think Eric Raymond has some kind of "last will and testament" page on his website.
- gjm11 17y ago
  http://www.catb.org/~esr/continuity.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/continuity.html
  - TweedHeads 17y ago
    "If I'm dead, move my pages to one of the Web mausoleums after a suitable period." Web mausoleums? any links?
    - kqr2 17y ago
      The Internet Archive perhaps? http://www.archive.org http://www.archive.org
- amichail 17y ago
  Why would one care about such a thing? If you believe there is an afterlife, do you also believe that it is connected in some way to Earth complete with internet access?
darshan 17y ago
That's what archive.org does for us. http://web.archive.org/web/20080201134026/http://naggum.no/ http://web.archive.org/web/20080201134026/http://naggum.no/
- TweedHeads 17y ago
  Can you run php, python, ruby programs from archive.org? That's what I am talking about, not html files. Maybe appspot from google is more of what I think. Maybe, paradise.google.com would be a great place to start, where you can indicate in your will to move all your stuff to paradise when you die. Also, sourceforge, github, any online repository. I guess we should consider more options as more of our lives moves online. As the pioneering generation embarks in the next journey...
  - andreyf 17y ago
    I'd prefer hell.google.com, but I suppose both will be equally offensive to some person or other...
listic 17y ago
That's the thought I was pondering for quite some time: eternal hosting. How does one make the site eternally available? It seems like service like this doesn't exist, possibly because nearly everyone is lost in the current moment. The serivce that I think of should be something like cryonics. Well, not exactly. Cryonics suspends human beings for indefinite period of time in hopes of time being in hopes for future resuscitation. Eternal hosting should keep site alive, just not updated by the author anymore. But the problem is similar in both cases: how to preserve something valuable for indefinite period of time with maximum probability, no breakage and no author's intervention, to the best of our estimates and technological ability. Seems like our society doesn't have services designed for eternity.
- dan_the_welder 17y ago
  http://www.youvebeenleftbehind.com http://www.youvebeenleftbehind.com "Services Overview We have set up a system to send documents by the email, to the addresses you provide, 6 days after the "Rapture" of the Church. This occurs when 3 of our 5 team members scattered around the U.S fail to log in over a 3 day period. Another 3 days are given to fail safe any false triggering of the system." Except it emails a zipped copy of your online stuff to a trusted second party. I call it "Ivecheckedout.com" Ahahhahahaha I love the intarwebs.
- kragen 17y ago
  Well, the DNS as it exists today is especially not designed for eternity, and HTTP storing your stuff on your own server also causes problems. You may have heard of "The Eternity Service"? Also see: Freenet, Usenet, Tahoe, and medieval scriptoria.
holygoat 17y ago
It's possible to renew a domain registration that you do not own. Barring hosting providers disappearing, then, you can do this right now... just spend the money.
blue1 17y ago
it seems that his friends are taking care of the issue: http://xach.livejournal.com/221433.html?thread=515833#t515833 http://xach.livejournal.com/221433.html?thread=515833#t51583...

hernan7 17y ago

FWIW, I think Eric Raymond has some kind of "last will and testament" page on his website.

gjm11 17y ago
http://www.catb.org/~esr/continuity.html http://www.catb.org/~esr/continuity.html
- TweedHeads 17y ago
  "If I'm dead, move my pages to one of the Web mausoleums after a suitable period." Web mausoleums? any links?
  - kqr2 17y ago
    The Internet Archive perhaps? http://www.archive.org http://www.archive.org
amichail 17y ago
Why would one care about such a thing? If you believe there is an afterlife, do you also believe that it is connected in some way to Earth complete with internet access?

darshan 17y ago

That's what archive.org does for us. http://web.archive.org/web/20080201134026/http://naggum.no/ http://web.archive.org/web/20080201134026/http://naggum.no/

TweedHeads 17y ago
Can you run php, python, ruby programs from archive.org? That's what I am talking about, not html files. Maybe appspot from google is more of what I think. Maybe, paradise.google.com would be a great place to start, where you can indicate in your will to move all your stuff to paradise when you die. Also, sourceforge, github, any online repository. I guess we should consider more options as more of our lives moves online. As the pioneering generation embarks in the next journey...
- andreyf 17y ago
  I'd prefer hell.google.com, but I suppose both will be equally offensive to some person or other...

listic 17y ago

That's the thought I was pondering for quite some time: eternal hosting. How does one make the site eternally available? It seems like service like this doesn't exist, possibly because nearly everyone is lost in the current moment. The serivce that I think of should be something like cryonics. Well, not exactly. Cryonics suspends human beings for indefinite period of time in hopes of time being in hopes for future resuscitation. Eternal hosting should keep site alive, just not updated by the author anymore. But the problem is similar in both cases: how to preserve something valuable for indefinite period of time with maximum probability, no breakage and no author's intervention, to the best of our estimates and technological ability. Seems like our society doesn't have services designed for eternity.

dan_the_welder 17y ago
http://www.youvebeenleftbehind.com http://www.youvebeenleftbehind.com "Services Overview We have set up a system to send documents by the email, to the addresses you provide, 6 days after the "Rapture" of the Church. This occurs when 3 of our 5 team members scattered around the U.S fail to log in over a 3 day period. Another 3 days are given to fail safe any false triggering of the system." Except it emails a zipped copy of your online stuff to a trusted second party. I call it "Ivecheckedout.com" Ahahhahahaha I love the intarwebs.
kragen 17y ago
Well, the DNS as it exists today is especially not designed for eternity, and HTTP storing your stuff on your own server also causes problems. You may have heard of "The Eternity Service"? Also see: Freenet, Usenet, Tahoe, and medieval scriptoria.

holygoat 17y ago

It's possible to renew a domain registration that you do not own. Barring hosting providers disappearing, then, you can do this right now... just spend the money.

blue1 17y ago

it seems that his friends are taking care of the issue: http://xach.livejournal.com/221433.html?thread=515833#t515833 http://xach.livejournal.com/221433.html?thread=515833#t51583...