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Introducing Moto G: An Exceptional Phone At An Exceptional Price
- mkaziz 13y agoWANT. I think I just found my next phone.
- programminggeek 13y agoWow, this is sort of like the Lumia 520 of the Android world. Awesome.
- Theodores 13y ago"All day battery" - that really is the top selling point! Imagine that, a phone that works all day, no babysitting needed! People will flock in vast hordes to buy this baby, and just for this one feature. 'web' rather than 'mobile' version of page: http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/introducing-moto-g-exceptional-phone-at.html http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/introducing-moto...
- vitobcn 13y agoTo be honest, I don't understand why manufacturers are still optimizing CPU performance instead of battery life. Who really needs a 4 or even 8-core mobile device? Most people I know with a smartphone, barely make it through the day and I often see them charging their phones at work. In my opinion, companies should follow Lenovo's lead and address battery life concerns. A phone like the P780, with a 4000mAh battery, is spec'd to last for 36 talking hours [1] and it can easily be used for 2-3 days without charging. I don't believe it is directly commercialized in the US, but the price point is not far from this Motorola, as it can be acquired from China for around 230-250 USD (e.g. through aliexpress). [1]: http://shop.lenovo.com/ae/en/smartphones/p-series/p780/ http://shop.lenovo.com/ae/en/smartphones/p-series/p780/
- homosaur 13y agoWho needs a 4 core device? Android users. Try getting an Android 4 device with 4 cores and 2 cores and compare them. The performance difference is stark. The 2 core devices feel very sluggish on Android 4.
- kllrnohj 13y agoThere's absolutely no performance difference whatsoever in normal usage. Really, none. Squat. Zilch. Zero. GPU performance and memory bandwidth are waaaaaaay more important than an extra 2 cores that'll be turned off 99% of the time anyway.
- homosaur 13y agoTell that to my garbage Motorola Photon which had a graphics chip
- kllrnohj 13y agoAll phones have a graphics chip, that doesn't mean it's a GOOD graphics chip. It also very much doesn't mean that it's fast enough for the screen resolution. In the case of your Photon it was also running Gingerbread which didn't have 2D hardware acceleration. Made especially worse by the fact that Tegra 2 doesn't have NEON, so the software painting was extra slow on that device AND it had a "high" resolution. It was a badly designed device from top to bottom. A quad core wouldn't have done a damn thing to help its pitiful performance (especially as there's still only a single UI thread doing the painting)
- homosaur 13y agoNo it was not running Gingerbread, the first thing I did was hack it. It was running Cyanogen based on Ice Cream Sandwich. I would not be surprised by the fact that it was poorly designed, and it's the main reason I will did not nor will not consider another Motorola phone in the future.
- makmanalp 13y agoI think one argument is that if you have multiple cores you can switch most of them into powersaving mode when they're unused, so you can have lower power use overall with more cores since max utilization won't be reached as often.
- sliverstorm 13y agoThat works out, if individual cores are nice and low power. An 8-core 600MHz, for example, would really live up to that ideal. But a 1.2GHz 8-core?
- bookwormAT 13y ago"I don't understand why manufacturers are still optimizing CPU performance instead of battery life." Maybe the simple answer is that they do not priorize processor power over battery life. Maybe they invest in both, but make more progress in the former than the latter.
- azio_m 13y agoNexus 5 battery is bigger (2300 mAh) and lasts ~4 hours under real usage - lowest screen brightness and no LTE. Google claim: Internet use time up to 8.5 hours on Wi-Fi, up to 7 hours on LTE. So don't take their word for it.
- YeahKIA 13y agoWait. What? I thought this problem was already solved. My Lumia 920 easily lasts through the day without requiring a charge and is already almost a year old.
- CrazedGeek 13y agoLower-end and mid-range phones get this right more often than higher-end phones, I think. My Galaxy Light will easily last for a few days with light to moderate usage.
- Joeri 13y agoMine runs two days on a charge. Ofcourse the downside of the 920 is that it's one of the heaviest phones out there. Still, i'm really happy with it.
- corresation 13y agoMy Nexus 5 sat at 80% battery remaining after 26 hours off the charger this morning. This with regular checking of emails, a couple of Facebook forays, some quick tests of a web app, and all of the services and background apps such entails. And despite my office/business being in a rural area with very sketchy cell coverage (thus the phone has to work much harder). Of course if I used much more screen on time my duration would be single digit hours instead. But such is the problem with comparing battery times when we all do different things with our devices, and use them in significantly different conditions.
- simonsez 13y agoThat's interesting, for my nexus 5 (granted it's only a few days old so perhaps there is some break-in) seems to go down to 80-85% in 10-15 minutes of morning web surfing/reading. Perhaps I have a bad device or something?
- corresation 13y agoWith high brightness and a lot of active, screen-on use, it will absolutely chew through the battery (though 20% in 15 minutes is extremely excessive: For wifi browsing Anandtech found it to be among the top devices, actually beating the benchmark iPhone devices. They then removed that result from the listing pending the full review release). What impressed me most from it is the standby time which is extremely impressive, even in difficult conditions.
- zmmmmm 13y agoAre sure that isn't a euphamism for "if you unplug at 9am you can probably make it until 5pm before it powers off due to dead battery"? Unless you're seeing something I"m not there's nothing really there that tells us anything solid about the actual battery life.
- Ricapar 13y agoHow would this compare to an HTC One?
- s3bast0m 13y agoHalf the specs, quarter of the price.
- turing 13y agoTruly impressive specs/build for the price. Can anyone shed light on whether $179 off-contract is low enough to be successful in its target markets (Brazil, Europe, Asia)?
- hershel 13y agoI think so. For example thl sells the w100(cheapest phone they make) at $154 and it offers lesser specs, and it's targeted for the Chinese market. $179 is just a bit more expensive, with better specs, so it could succeed.
- Juha 13y agoThere are phones with similar specs on that price range in Asia. I got a Lenovo A820 about half a year ago from China for around 140$ (http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-A820-Android-core1-2GHz-Smartphone/dp/B00CGVD8M8 http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-A820-Android-core1-2GHz-Smartph...). It has very similar specs with 4.5" screen and 1.2Ghz quad-core. I think it all depends on how hood build quality Motorola manages to achieve.
- dudus 13y agoThis is the price for US. It actually starts at US$280 in Brazil.
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- prlin 13y agoSo.. what did they do to bring the price down? Take a hit and lose money on each phone sold to get gain relevance?
- wmf 13y agoCheaper SoC, cheaper cameras, no LTE, less RAM, less flash storage, etc.
- bsimpson 13y agoThey skimped on all the things I find underwhelming about my GNexus now. =( Oh well. I'll just pick up an HTC One off Craigslist for $300.
- jsolson 13y agoWhy not a Nexus 5? It didn't skimp on any of those things and is $349 unlocked on the Play store.
- bsimpson 13y agoBetter build quality and camera; similar specs and price
- mosburger 13y agoI wish I could do that. Unfortunately I'm on Verizon. :(
- touristtam 13y agoQuick comparison: http://versus.com/en/google-nexus-5-vs-motorola-moto-g http://versus.com/en/google-nexus-5-vs-motorola-moto-g Think you might want to stick to the Nexus. I personally am perfectly happy with my Xiaomi Mi2s 16Gb, although I could have done with more space: http://versus.com/en/xiaomi-mi-2s-16gb-vs-motorola-moto-g http://versus.com/en/xiaomi-mi-2s-16gb-vs-motorola-moto-g
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- lnlyplnt 13y agoI'm worried that Moto might find itself in HTC's shoes: Making truly great phones that nobody buys anyway.
- homosaur 13y agoI don't think customers soured on HTC because their phones weren't awesome but because of their shoddy support and updates. The HTC One is the best phone I've owned since their Nexus One (probably the best phone I EVER owned) but they are laggards in getting software updates out. They're smart enough now not to set deadlines they'll break but not setting deadlines is maybe not a great solution to the problem long term.
- beachstartup 13y agothis is low enough to buy one for the unused numbers on our company plan that are still in contract for whatever reason.
- rubiquity 13y agoI wonder if you'll be able to put Firefox OS on these. I've been wanting to play with that OS but the current devices offered for it are very underwhelming to try and push its limits.
- supergauntlet 13y agoIt's an unlocked bootloader, assuming you can get the needed device drivers installed into FF OS I don't see why you wouldn't.
- imaffett 13y agoI have a ZTE Open and a Geeksphone. The 1.1 release was a huge upgrade, but they still have some ways to go. There are problems with the HTML5 Canvas element and positioning DOM nodes/scrolling.
- rubiquity 13y agoI have a ZTE Open as well. Did they release 1.1 for it? I thought they didn't.
- artlogic 13y agoIn my experience, it's not straightforward. First you need to install an update from ZTE to unlock fastboot. Then you'll need to compile 1.1 on your own, and flash it yourself. I'm hoping ZTE releases an OTA update, but I'm not holding my breath.
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- wiredfool 13y agoFM radio for 'free' music? Where's the business model in that?. Don't tell me it's going to be ad supported.
- thaumasiotes 13y agoInterestingly, a music radio station might not necessarily need to be ad supported, except that payola was for some reason made illegal.
- CrazedGeek 13y agoIt's not illegal, you just have to announce that it's sponsored (and Wikipedia mentions that it doesn't count as a regular play, but I can't find a citation for that at the moment): http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/317 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/317
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- mtgx 13y agoFM Radio support is very common in Europe and a lot of people use it.
- computeloops 13y agoFrequency Modulated radio stations are free in India. It comes with traditional broadcast ad.
- DanBC 13y agoBBC Radio One, Two, Three, and Four are transmitted on FM (and others). They are free to receive, and funded by the BBC licence fee. They do not carry ads.
- msh 13y agoSo they are not really free.
- disdev 13y agoExceptional? How about "A decent phone at a decent price."
- jqueryin 13y agoI was very interested until I got to the part of no LTE support. That's a deal breaker for me. I had a Samsung S3 that I busted and opted for the Samsung S3 Mini at one point, and the lack of LTE cost me dearly. I literally couldn't browse the internet unless I was on Wifi.
- Spittie 13y agoYou can't use 3g? It's plenty fast for internet browsing (Right now from my phone I get a ping in the range of 60/120ms, ~10mb down and ~1mb up). Or there are other problems?
- jqueryin 13y ago3G is spotty. I should preface this by stating that I use Straight Talk with an AT&T SIM which is likely the other half of the problem.
- laacz 13y agoLTE has one killer momentum - extremely low latency. I have to go back (temporarily) to a phone without LTE support and it's a pain, actually. Edit: I'm from Latvia. We currently have Band 3 only LTE with Band 7 and Band 20 coming next year. And even though actual speeds are not South-Korea-like, 20Mbps+ is a norm.
- blisterpeanuts 13y agoI'm curious - isn't 3G the fallback speed when LTE is unavailable or when your phone doesn't have LTE support? Or is LTE a separate band that may exist without 3G at all in some regions? My wife's Nexus 4 (3G) seems to get internet just as often and approximately as fast as my Galaxy Nexus (LTE). Then again I don't stream videos that often over data networks, because it sucks to hit the limit and get choked back to 2G on T-Mo.
- Zoomla 13y ago3G is a little better then dialup while 4G is more like WiFi-802.11G
- dudus 13y agoMotorola Brazil seems to be down right now, probably updating for this phone. motorola.com.br I'm very anxious to see how much they will charge. The Moto X goes for R$ 1499.00 unlocked or US$ 645. Electronics arrive here at ridiculous prices unfortunately. The Playstation 4 will be released at a US$2,000.00 price point.
- dudus 13y agoHere are the prices for the Brazilian version. 8GB single chip: R$649 (US$280) 8GB dual-chip: R$699 (US$300) 16GB dual-chip with 3 covers: R$799 (US$344) 16GB dual-chip in a package that includes a headphone: R$999 (US$430) For someone in the US it seems a lot, but it's actually very well priced IMO. Source: http://www.techtudo.com.br/noticias/noticia/2013/11/moto-g-do-brasil-para-o-mundo-motorola-apresenta-novo-smart-android.html http://www.techtudo.com.br/noticias/noticia/2013/11/moto-g-d...
- nick2021 13y agoI won't purchase this phone because it comes with an operating system by the name of "JellyBean" and later on "KitKat". Stupid ass name. I am a Microsoft developer and I say f' windows phone, f' android, iOS is the best.
- xioxox 13y agoInteresting, but this review shows there's no SD card, so I won't be buying it. http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-moto-g/4505-6452_7-35831726.html http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/motorola-moto-g/4505-645...
- essersteven 13y agoI have the nexus 4 right now, this might have to be my next phone.
- wmf 13y agoWhy? Isn't it equivalent or worse than the N4?
- Mindless2112 13y agoIt depends on when he plans to get his next phone. I would consider buying this if I accidentally dropped my N4 in a lake, so it could be my next phone.
- Pxtl 13y agoI wonder why they skipped the Xmas launch in the USA? Either way, I'm happy to be Canadian for once, this is seriously tempting.
- anigbrowl 13y agoProbably not to undermine sales of the Nexus 5. Anyweay I'm waiting until January, this looks like a nice phone that does more than enough of what I want.
- blisterpeanuts 13y ago$199 for an unlocked (or unlockable), contract-free 16 gig device? That's really outstanding. This may even cut into Nexus 5 sales. This may be the adrenaline shot that Motorola needs to get back into the game. I hope this leads to a whole slew of similarly priced medium-to-high performing handsets. And assembled in the U.S., too. Congratulations to Motorola!
- mcintyre1994 13y agoI'm really impressed, this is exactly what Google should be working toward. I remember them saying they're looking toward the next billion phones, and putting products like this and the Nexus 5 in their respective price points definitely looks like a move in the right direction.
- auctiontheory 13y agoUnless Google is bundling this with an unlimited bandwidth cellular plan, 8GB/16GB are totally inadequate for anyone who hopes to create or consume audio/visual content.
- arunoda 13y agoAnyone knows the soundtrack of the youtube video?
- spudlyo 13y agoI wondered that myself, to my ear it sounds a bit like Blackalicious, one of my favorite underground hip-hop acts. Turns out it's Wax Tailor's Positively Inclined. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv44r3q6zgo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv44r3q6zgo Dope!
- dschiptsov 13y agoCome on, big screen with low resolution, weak CPU/GPU, reduced RAM - Samsung's approach to sell cheap phones which look like Galaxy S III/IV. Is this what is called innovations nowadays?)
- markbernard 13y agoWon't buy a phone that does not have an SD or microSD slot.