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Any good overviews of this leak yet?

by stevengg 13y ago

TomGullen 13y ago
There's a lot of information there... probably take a few days.
- simgidacav 13y ago
  I hope someone will post tl;dr indeed. This is like reading licenses. No wonder there's people who just blindly accepts everything without reading. I love when there's a blog post and they put tl;dr on head. On the other hand, by sticking to the tl;dr you accept the version the non-lazy guy will give you.
  - ISL 13y ago
    Almost anywhere you live, it's your government. If you want your government to make clear and simple rules, vote in people you think might make that happen.
  - thaumasiotes 13y ago
    > On the other hand, by sticking to the tl;dr you accept the version the non-lazy guy will give you. This isn't even the main problem. The main problem is the people who say they've read through the thing and openly lie about what's in it. (speaking generally)
ihsw 13y ago
The EFF will definitely be issuing some manner of condemnation and praise, especially since a variety of nation's stances are made clear. Skimming through it, it's entertaining to see "CA/CL/AU/NZ/JP/ETC oppose; US/BLAH propose" strewn about. One has to wonder where the line is drawn between self-interest and political favors. Here is the section that might interest you, on ISP liability: http://wikileaks.org/tpp/#QQI1 http://wikileaks.org/tpp/#QQI1 A small part of me feels like some party attributions may not be written by representatives of their respective country, and that there is some political/corporate hand-wringing influencing/forcing party attributions. To avoid political fallout, these party attributions must be kept secret (lest they contradict prior established stances).
nodata 13y ago
The Verge has one: http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/13/5099236/wikileaks-publishes-leaked-draft-of-tpp http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/13/5099236/wikileaks-publish...
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logn 13y ago
I just skimmed the whole thing. If you've paid attention at all to news related to IP issues in the last 10 years, none of the content of this agreement would come as a surprise. I don't see any radically different provisions here compared to current laws. The portions on 'genetic resources' were most interesting I thought, only because everything was so vaguely defined that I worried how countries would interpret it.

Any good overviews of this leak yet?

TomGullen 13y ago

There's a lot of information there... probably take a few days.

simgidacav 13y ago
I hope someone will post tl;dr indeed. This is like reading licenses. No wonder there's people who just blindly accepts everything without reading. I love when there's a blog post and they put tl;dr on head. On the other hand, by sticking to the tl;dr you accept the version the non-lazy guy will give you.
- ISL 13y ago
  Almost anywhere you live, it's your government. If you want your government to make clear and simple rules, vote in people you think might make that happen.
- thaumasiotes 13y ago
  > On the other hand, by sticking to the tl;dr you accept the version the non-lazy guy will give you. This isn't even the main problem. The main problem is the people who say they've read through the thing and openly lie about what's in it. (speaking generally)

ihsw 13y ago

The EFF will definitely be issuing some manner of condemnation and praise, especially since a variety of nation's stances are made clear. Skimming through it, it's entertaining to see "CA/CL/AU/NZ/JP/ETC oppose; US/BLAH propose" strewn about. One has to wonder where the line is drawn between self-interest and political favors. Here is the section that might interest you, on ISP liability: http://wikileaks.org/tpp/#QQI1 http://wikileaks.org/tpp/#QQI1 A small part of me feels like some party attributions may not be written by representatives of their respective country, and that there is some political/corporate hand-wringing influencing/forcing party attributions. To avoid political fallout, these party attributions must be kept secret (lest they contradict prior established stances).

nodata 13y ago

The Verge has one: http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/13/5099236/wikileaks-publishes-leaked-draft-of-tpp http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/13/5099236/wikileaks-publish...

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logn 13y ago

I just skimmed the whole thing. If you've paid attention at all to news related to IP issues in the last 10 years, none of the content of this agreement would come as a surprise. I don't see any radically different provisions here compared to current laws. The portions on 'genetic resources' were most interesting I thought, only because everything was so vaguely defined that I worried how countries would interpret it.