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Delicious unhealthy cheeseburger or a tasteless but healthy goop in a can? I guess you're right, it's a no-brainer either for people with self-discipline and fo

Delicious unhealthy cheeseburger or a tasteless but healthy goop in a can? I guess you're right, it's a no-brainer either for people with self-discipline and for those without.

dragonwriter 13y ago
> Delicious unhealthy cheeseburger or a tasteless but healthy goop in a can? I choose -- false dichotomy. Plenty of healthy and not tasteless quick meal replacements that already exist.
- MarcusVorenus 13y ago
  Such option was not presented in the hypothetical scenario. It'd be trivial anyway to make the tasteless goop tasty with some flavorings.
  - djur 13y ago
    If you think it is "trivial" to make a bland substance taste good without substantially changing the nutritional makeup of that substance, there are a lot of diet food companies who would like to have a chat with you and make you fabulously rich. Jamba Juice would like to know the secret, too. Most things that innately taste good -- stuff that you could drop in a blender and drink and it'd still be agreeable -- are fatty, salty, starchy, sugary, or some mix of all these. Healthy and good-tasting food requires pleasant textures and careful composition that allows a small amount of fat, salt, starch, etc. to enhance the flavor of the whole meal.
    - MarcusVorenus 13y ago
      I guess I should have said it would be trivial to make it tastier for my own non-demanding taste buds. I could just add a few drops of stevia and I'd be good to go, but I see how it could be a challenge to make something that pleases most people. "Fatty" is not a synonym for unhealthy by the way. A lot of people consider high fat/low carb diets to be healthier than the reverse.
      - toomuchtodo 13y ago
        OP here. I'm currently on the keto diet; fat, in moderation, fat is definitely not unhealthy. The problem is, McDonalds meals are not healthy, full stop: Mcdonald's - Big Mac Meal With Fries and Coke With No Onions http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/mcdonalds-big-mac-meal-with-fries-and-coke-with-no-onions-55865809 http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/mcdonalds-big-mac-... 1130 Calories, and 67 grams of sugar. Call me when McDonalds modifies their meals to consist primarily of protein/fat calories.
        Erwin 13y ago
        Don't get fries. Don't get a drink with sugar added. Definitely don't get a milkshake or cookies. The burger itself is fine. You wouldn't go to Subway for a nice sandwich and drink a liter of Coke afterwards and a bag of chips and complain about how unhealthy it is. Here you can get some nice fresh crispy raw carrots instead of fries.
  - dragonwriter 13y ago
    > Such option was not presented in the hypothetical scenario. Right...that's why I called the scenario a false dichotomy.

Delicious unhealthy cheeseburger or a tasteless but healthy goop in a can? I guess you're right, it's a no-brainer either for people with self-discipline and for those without.

dragonwriter 13y ago

> Delicious unhealthy cheeseburger or a tasteless but healthy goop in a can? I choose -- false dichotomy. Plenty of healthy and not tasteless quick meal replacements that already exist.

MarcusVorenus 13y ago
Such option was not presented in the hypothetical scenario. It'd be trivial anyway to make the tasteless goop tasty with some flavorings.
- djur 13y ago
  If you think it is "trivial" to make a bland substance taste good without substantially changing the nutritional makeup of that substance, there are a lot of diet food companies who would like to have a chat with you and make you fabulously rich. Jamba Juice would like to know the secret, too. Most things that innately taste good -- stuff that you could drop in a blender and drink and it'd still be agreeable -- are fatty, salty, starchy, sugary, or some mix of all these. Healthy and good-tasting food requires pleasant textures and careful composition that allows a small amount of fat, salt, starch, etc. to enhance the flavor of the whole meal.
  - MarcusVorenus 13y ago
    I guess I should have said it would be trivial to make it tastier for my own non-demanding taste buds. I could just add a few drops of stevia and I'd be good to go, but I see how it could be a challenge to make something that pleases most people. "Fatty" is not a synonym for unhealthy by the way. A lot of people consider high fat/low carb diets to be healthier than the reverse.
    - toomuchtodo 13y ago
      OP here. I'm currently on the keto diet; fat, in moderation, fat is definitely not unhealthy. The problem is, McDonalds meals are not healthy, full stop: Mcdonald's - Big Mac Meal With Fries and Coke With No Onions http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/mcdonalds-big-mac-meal-with-fries-and-coke-with-no-onions-55865809 http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/mcdonalds-big-mac-... 1130 Calories, and 67 grams of sugar. Call me when McDonalds modifies their meals to consist primarily of protein/fat calories.
      - Erwin 13y ago
        Don't get fries. Don't get a drink with sugar added. Definitely don't get a milkshake or cookies. The burger itself is fine. You wouldn't go to Subway for a nice sandwich and drink a liter of Coke afterwards and a bag of chips and complain about how unhealthy it is. Here you can get some nice fresh crispy raw carrots instead of fries.
- dragonwriter 13y ago
  > Such option was not presented in the hypothetical scenario. Right...that's why I called the scenario a false dichotomy.