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> It's literally harmless to the people around you. They're not sucking down plain water vapor are they? E-cigs have nicotine cartridges for them, it would be

by mhurron 13y ago

> It's literally harmless to the people around you. They're not sucking down plain water vapor are they? E-cigs have nicotine cartridges for them, it would be silly to believe that the smokers lungs are grabbing all of that nicotine out before they exhale. Which is, of course, what this whole thing is about.

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evilduck 13y ago
How much nicotine do you expect you're coming in contact with? And if it's just nicotine, second-hand airborne nicotine is about the least threatening public safety risk I can imagine.
- xradionut 13y ago
  Depending on the circumstances, enough for me to notice. I feel the effects before I usually notice the person vaping.
  - jsmeaton 13y ago
    And which effects do you feel?
  - freehunter 13y ago
    How close are you that you can feel the effects of a miniscule amount of nicotine exhaled into a room full of air? Are you breathing right from the person's mouth? I guess my original comment about not hearing any FUD about e-cigs can be thrown out now.
nucleardog 13y ago
> They're not sucking down plain water vapor are they? E-cigs have nicotine cartridges for them, it would be silly to believe that the smokers lungs are grabbing all of that nicotine out before they exhale. Except it's not. http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/268327-1349236060-new-ecigarette-study-shows-no-risk-from-environmental-vapor-exposure.html http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/268327-1349236060-new-eciga... "Those few compounds that were found were at such minuscule levels that toxicology analysis detected no risk (cancer or non-cancer risk) to public health from environmental e-cigarette vapor." "While secondhand smoke must be eliminated in workplaces and public places, the current data provide no justification for eliminating electronic cigarette use in these places."- Dr. Michael Siegel of Boston University School of Public Health "For more than 25 years Smokefree Pennsylvania has been advocating indoor smoking bans. Based on the results of this study I see no reason for e-cigarettes to be included in smoking bans." - Bill Godshall of Smokefree Pennsylvania "The results of this study confirm the findings of my last 4 years of research. E-cigarettes pose no discernible risk to public health." - Dr. Murray Laugesen - Public Health Medicine Specialist, Health New Zealand
- mhurron 13y ago
  http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm173146.htm http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm173146.ht... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette "In some e-cigarettes, "Tobacco-specific impurities suspected of being harmful to humans – anabasine, myosmine, and β-nicotyrine – were detected in a majority of the samples tested." It is not clear if these chemicals were detectable in exhaled vapour. The UK National Health Service noted that the toxic chemicals found by the FDA were at levels one-thousandth that of cigarette smoke, and that while there is no certainty that these small traces are harmless, initial test results are reassuring." So no, it does not appear to be so cut and dry. The whole issue is that it isn't, and some people have a problem with that concerning a product the user shares with everyone around them.

by mhurron 13y ago

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evilduck 13y ago

How much nicotine do you expect you're coming in contact with? And if it's just nicotine, second-hand airborne nicotine is about the least threatening public safety risk I can imagine.

xradionut 13y ago
Depending on the circumstances, enough for me to notice. I feel the effects before I usually notice the person vaping.
- jsmeaton 13y ago
  And which effects do you feel?
- freehunter 13y ago
  How close are you that you can feel the effects of a miniscule amount of nicotine exhaled into a room full of air? Are you breathing right from the person's mouth? I guess my original comment about not hearing any FUD about e-cigs can be thrown out now.

nucleardog 13y ago

> They're not sucking down plain water vapor are they? E-cigs have nicotine cartridges for them, it would be silly to believe that the smokers lungs are grabbing all of that nicotine out before they exhale. Except it's not. http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/268327-1349236060-new-ecigarette-study-shows-no-risk-from-environmental-vapor-exposure.html http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/268327-1349236060-new-eciga... "Those few compounds that were found were at such minuscule levels that toxicology analysis detected no risk (cancer or non-cancer risk) to public health from environmental e-cigarette vapor." "While secondhand smoke must be eliminated in workplaces and public places, the current data provide no justification for eliminating electronic cigarette use in these places."- Dr. Michael Siegel of Boston University School of Public Health "For more than 25 years Smokefree Pennsylvania has been advocating indoor smoking bans. Based on the results of this study I see no reason for e-cigarettes to be included in smoking bans." - Bill Godshall of Smokefree Pennsylvania "The results of this study confirm the findings of my last 4 years of research. E-cigarettes pose no discernible risk to public health." - Dr. Murray Laugesen - Public Health Medicine Specialist, Health New Zealand

mhurron 13y ago
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm173146.htm http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm173146.ht... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette "In some e-cigarettes, "Tobacco-specific impurities suspected of being harmful to humans – anabasine, myosmine, and β-nicotyrine – were detected in a majority of the samples tested." It is not clear if these chemicals were detectable in exhaled vapour. The UK National Health Service noted that the toxic chemicals found by the FDA were at levels one-thousandth that of cigarette smoke, and that while there is no certainty that these small traces are harmless, initial test results are reassuring." So no, it does not appear to be so cut and dry. The whole issue is that it isn't, and some people have a problem with that concerning a product the user shares with everyone around them.