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If there is a good counter to this discussion of the Shock Doctrine, I'd be interested: http://www.cato.org/blog/johan-norberg-vs-naomi-klein-round-3 http://www

by berntb 13y ago

If there is a good counter to this discussion of the Shock Doctrine, I'd be interested: http://www.cato.org/blog/johan-norberg-vs-naomi-klein-round-3 http://www.cato.org/blog/johan-norberg-vs-naomi-klein-round-... (Besides, 3000 dead and 27000 incarcerated and many of those tortured -- sounds like a left regime rounding error... :-) )

berntb 13y ago
I only got a down vote and no references to show why my reference is wrong? Despite that all the left idealists reading this very much wants to? :-) But it is wasted of course, no idealist changes his/her mind just because they learn that their empress is naked.
papaf 13y ago
Please do not joke about rounding errors. It is offensive: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-pinochet-affair-i-saw-them-herded-to-their-death-i-heard-the-gunfire-as-they-died-1179543.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-pinochet-affair-i-saw-... It was during the first three days they were held captive that Mr Schesch and his wife became aware of the lines of people being formed up and then led out of the stadium - almost certainly to concentration camps - or else inside, to face the firing squad.
- berntb 13y ago
  Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I seriously think black humor is a good tool to give perspective -- the left around where I grew up pushed tens of millions of dead under the carpet. (E.g. the stories from volunteers that left for Soviet in the 30s were oppressed until well after 1989.) 3000 dead is, sadly, a rounding error for the ideology that gets five percent of the vote in my home country. Right now I'm in East Europe and shocked at the stories of how Soviet broke the back of any complaints -- just these are worse than Chile in most countries here... And mostly unknown. It might be different where you live. But I do agree with what you seem to imply -- one person is too many.

by berntb 13y ago

berntb 13y ago

I only got a down vote and no references to show why my reference is wrong? Despite that all the left idealists reading this very much wants to? :-) But it is wasted of course, no idealist changes his/her mind just because they learn that their empress is naked.

papaf 13y ago

Please do not joke about rounding errors. It is offensive: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-pinochet-affair-i-saw-them-herded-to-their-death-i-heard-the-gunfire-as-they-died-1179543.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-pinochet-affair-i-saw-... It was during the first three days they were held captive that Mr Schesch and his wife became aware of the lines of people being formed up and then led out of the stadium - almost certainly to concentration camps - or else inside, to face the firing squad.

berntb 13y ago
Sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I seriously think black humor is a good tool to give perspective -- the left around where I grew up pushed tens of millions of dead under the carpet. (E.g. the stories from volunteers that left for Soviet in the 30s were oppressed until well after 1989.) 3000 dead is, sadly, a rounding error for the ideology that gets five percent of the vote in my home country. Right now I'm in East Europe and shocked at the stories of how Soviet broke the back of any complaints -- just these are worse than Chile in most countries here... And mostly unknown. It might be different where you live. But I do agree with what you seem to imply -- one person is too many.