Well, I'll consider Surface (etc) relevant when I see it in use myself. Also, Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, for any purpose.. :) I'm just trying to provid

Well, I'll consider Surface (etc) relevant when I see it in use myself. Also, Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, for any purpose.. :) I'm just trying to provide a counter point to all of the apple-linux fanboyism (for the sake of fanboyism) and MS-hate that's prevalent... Well, there's a reason why MS-hate is prevalent, but it's not prevalent enough. This seems to be a fairly good chronicle of the reasons why: http://boycottnovell.com/category/deception/ http://boycottnovell.com/category/deception/ ( Yes, I just saw that site today, from a link on HN ) especially when MS are are making actual attempts at real innovation coughoperaunitecough, yet people seem to just want to ignore those facts and instead provide biased opinions. Opera's hyping of Unite really has been a new low for the company. But I don't see how acknowledging all the evil MS has done is in any way "ignoring the facts" or "providing biased opinions". I use the word "evil", because despite possibly sounding silly, it's an appropriate word here. It's all well and good to dislike something, but at least have a good, up to date reason for disliking something. Holding grudges for past slights is never cool. That's just it. Microsoft's outrageously slimy and evil practises shouldn't become "history" in a week or two. Those countless past "slights" are perfectly good reasons for disliking, or detesting Microsoft. People just keep forgetting them.