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My guess is this gives Google a clear migration path away from Java to a unified Chrome OS for phone, tablet, notebook etc. PNaCl could coexist with Android app

My guess is this gives Google a clear migration path away from Java to a unified Chrome OS for phone, tablet, notebook etc. PNaCl could coexist with Android apps until Google finally phases Java out.

efuquen 13y ago
Am I missing something here, when was this about Java and phasing it out of Android? I don't think that's a likely plan but if you have any evidence to the contrary I would love to see it. Java is pretty pretty central to Android to think that it's somehow going to be "phased out", that would be more like destroying the entire platform. I know everyone loves to hate on Java, but I'm always amazed by some of the wacky things people say ...
- _random_ 13y ago
  Maybe a new virtual machine along with a high-level language will magically materialize out of thin air? GoVM perhaps, that was secretly being developed all this time?
  - munificent 13y ago
    > Maybe a new virtual machine along with a high-level language will magically materialize out of thin air? Dart[1] is high-level, and has a clean, fast VM implementation. Also, ARM support[2]. [1] https://www.dartlang.org/ https://www.dartlang.org/ [2] https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleeding_edge/dart/runtime/vm/assembler_arm.h https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleedi...
- Procrastes 13y ago
  I really don't hate Java at all. It's had a generally beneficial impact in all sorts of places. But I wonder with the change-over in leadership for Android[1] if we aren't seeing signals that Google wants to consolidate all of its apps under Chrome. One possible motivation is that they may not want to leave a core technology under the control of Oracle forever. 1. http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/07/17/google-is-holding-a-press-event-with-android-and-chrome-chief-sundar-pichai-on-july-24/ http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/07/17/google-is-holding-a-...
CookWithMe 13y ago
Using the NDK [1], an Android app can already run C/C++ code. If Google really wanted to phase out Java (where did that come from anyway?), the biggest task is to port the whole SDK, especially the UI, and not to run C code. [1] http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html
_random_ 13y ago
You probably wanted to say JVM. Please read some Wikipedia for background info before posting.
- Procrastes 13y ago
  Nope. I said what I meant. Java is alot of things. I was talking about all of them. I used to be part of Sun's Java Center.

My guess is this gives Google a clear migration path away from Java to a unified Chrome OS for phone, tablet, notebook etc. PNaCl could coexist with Android apps until Google finally phases Java out.

efuquen 13y ago

Am I missing something here, when was this about Java and phasing it out of Android? I don't think that's a likely plan but if you have any evidence to the contrary I would love to see it. Java is pretty pretty central to Android to think that it's somehow going to be "phased out", that would be more like destroying the entire platform. I know everyone loves to hate on Java, but I'm always amazed by some of the wacky things people say ...

_random_ 13y ago
Maybe a new virtual machine along with a high-level language will magically materialize out of thin air? GoVM perhaps, that was secretly being developed all this time?
- munificent 13y ago
  > Maybe a new virtual machine along with a high-level language will magically materialize out of thin air? Dart[1] is high-level, and has a clean, fast VM implementation. Also, ARM support[2]. [1] https://www.dartlang.org/ https://www.dartlang.org/ [2] https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleeding_edge/dart/runtime/vm/assembler_arm.h https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleedi...
Procrastes 13y ago
I really don't hate Java at all. It's had a generally beneficial impact in all sorts of places. But I wonder with the change-over in leadership for Android[1] if we aren't seeing signals that Google wants to consolidate all of its apps under Chrome. One possible motivation is that they may not want to leave a core technology under the control of Oracle forever. 1. http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/07/17/google-is-holding-a-press-event-with-android-and-chrome-chief-sundar-pichai-on-july-24/ http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/07/17/google-is-holding-a-...

CookWithMe 13y ago

Using the NDK [1], an Android app can already run C/C++ code. If Google really wanted to phase out Java (where did that come from anyway?), the biggest task is to port the whole SDK, especially the UI, and not to run C code. [1] http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html

_random_ 13y ago

You probably wanted to say JVM. Please read some Wikipedia for background info before posting.

Procrastes 13y ago
Nope. I said what I meant. Java is alot of things. I was talking about all of them. I used to be part of Sun's Java Center.