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I doubt the people who's lives he ruined consider those things petty.

by gnaritas 13y ago

cnlwsu 13y ago
Lost monetary gains of some vs the lives of so many. Guess it depends on your point of view.
- lmm 13y ago
  Who can say what others might've done with the money? As someone who genuinely believes in democracy, I have to believe that a large sum of money will achieve more good in the hands of many than in those of few, or one.
- gnaritas 13y ago
  Saving lives doesn't wipe away past wrongs. Your argument is fallacious.
  - kamaal 13y ago
    What do you suggest he should do now? Let the people die from malaria, do nothing about kids getting crippled from polio, let kids suffer from malnutrition?? What do you suggest he should do instead? Play golf and write management books all day? A man made richest fortune on earth, and has now gone on a mission to tackle tough problems for the betterment of humanity and all you can do is find mistakes in his work?
    - gnaritas 13y ago
      He's doing great things now, but that's not in the slightest way relevant to the point I made. His wrongs were not and are not petty to those who suffered from them and pointing that out is not finding mistakes in his work nor is it disapproving of what he's now doing.
scholia 13y ago
Ruined? Most businesses fail, and most large businesses cause many others to fail (this includes IBM, Google and Apple) as well as providing the means for many others to succeed and prosper. Even if you were right, I don't think the lives of Silicon Valley yuppies have been "ruined" in quite the same way as some of the victims of Chinese factory production lines....
- general_failure 13y ago
  Yes ruined. Instead of having desk jobs these failed business owners could have had a shot at saving the world. The fact is he screwed people.
  - scholia 13y ago
    Fact is that Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Eric Schmidt and others also screwed people, and in some cases, probably more than Gates. None of them has done remotely as much to make up for it. Indeed, while you are getting your panties in a twist about things you think happened in the 1990s, Gates has saved millions of lives. Have you considered worrying less about a few capitalists being "ruined" (while living in the world's richest society and consuming a huge proportion of the world's resources) and worrying more about the millions suffering from war, starvation, disease and various other afflictions?
    - gnaritas 13y ago
      > Fact is that Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Eric Schmidt and others also screwed people, and in some cases, probably more than Gates. I don't recall any of them being being brought up on anti-trust charges and losing. And no amount of saving lives wipes away those you ruined.
      - sauravc 13y ago
        Apple hit with U.S. injunction in e-books antitrust case http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/06/us-apple-ebooks-idUSBRE9850MD20130906 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/06/us-apple-ebooks-id...

I doubt the people who's lives he ruined consider those things petty.

cnlwsu 13y ago

Lost monetary gains of some vs the lives of so many. Guess it depends on your point of view.

lmm 13y ago
Who can say what others might've done with the money? As someone who genuinely believes in democracy, I have to believe that a large sum of money will achieve more good in the hands of many than in those of few, or one.
gnaritas 13y ago
Saving lives doesn't wipe away past wrongs. Your argument is fallacious.
- kamaal 13y ago
  What do you suggest he should do now? Let the people die from malaria, do nothing about kids getting crippled from polio, let kids suffer from malnutrition?? What do you suggest he should do instead? Play golf and write management books all day? A man made richest fortune on earth, and has now gone on a mission to tackle tough problems for the betterment of humanity and all you can do is find mistakes in his work?
  - gnaritas 13y ago
    He's doing great things now, but that's not in the slightest way relevant to the point I made. His wrongs were not and are not petty to those who suffered from them and pointing that out is not finding mistakes in his work nor is it disapproving of what he's now doing.

scholia 13y ago

Ruined? Most businesses fail, and most large businesses cause many others to fail (this includes IBM, Google and Apple) as well as providing the means for many others to succeed and prosper. Even if you were right, I don't think the lives of Silicon Valley yuppies have been "ruined" in quite the same way as some of the victims of Chinese factory production lines....

general_failure 13y ago
Yes ruined. Instead of having desk jobs these failed business owners could have had a shot at saving the world. The fact is he screwed people.
- scholia 13y ago
  Fact is that Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Eric Schmidt and others also screwed people, and in some cases, probably more than Gates. None of them has done remotely as much to make up for it. Indeed, while you are getting your panties in a twist about things you think happened in the 1990s, Gates has saved millions of lives. Have you considered worrying less about a few capitalists being "ruined" (while living in the world's richest society and consuming a huge proportion of the world's resources) and worrying more about the millions suffering from war, starvation, disease and various other afflictions?
  - gnaritas 13y ago
    > Fact is that Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Eric Schmidt and others also screwed people, and in some cases, probably more than Gates. I don't recall any of them being being brought up on anti-trust charges and losing. And no amount of saving lives wipes away those you ruined.
    - sauravc 13y ago
      Apple hit with U.S. injunction in e-books antitrust case http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/06/us-apple-ebooks-idUSBRE9850MD20130906 http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/06/us-apple-ebooks-id...