> for Groovy couldn't they just bundle the tooling to turn the runtime-generated bytecode into Dalvik bytecode? There's no "just" when it comes to the Codehaus

> for Groovy couldn't they just bundle the tooling to turn the runtime-generated bytecode into Dalvik bytecode? There's no "just" when it comes to the Codehaus implementation of the Groovy Language. According to the Codehaus Groovy project manager [1], "Groovy is not able to run properly on Google's Android mobile platform ... (It takes) 20 seconds to start up a simple Hello World". BTW, that webpage was seeking students to do work making Groovy run on Android, but Google didn't accept that project, or any projects related to Groovy [2], perhaps because no students were interested or maybe because of Codehaus's history of mishandling GSoC projects. The last Groovy project ever accepted was one in 2011 rewriting Groovy's antiquated parser in Antlr 3.0. The project failed and Google only paid out half the project money. [1] http://groovy.codehaus.org/GSoC+2013 http://groovy.codehaus.org/GSoC+2013 [2] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc2013 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/projects/list/google/gsoc...