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MailChimp are just spam enablers. The vast majority of e-mail I get from them is to e-mail addresses that definitely never ever signed up for anything. They cla
by alextingle 13y ago
MailChimp are just spam enablers. The vast majority of e-mail I get from them is to e-mail addresses that definitely never ever signed up for anything. They claim they use double opt in, but that's just a damn dirty lie.
Furthermore, they are past masters at helping their spammers craft their spam to defeat SpamAssassin and baysian filters, so the spam that actually makes it to my inbox is disproportionately from them. It's got so bad that I've got special mail server rules that focus on just them.
- mpclark 13y agoWell, good for you. I see a company that tries very hard to educate its customers and keep them on the straight and narrow.
- oneeyedpigeon 13y agoIf you saw it from the other end, in the eyes of a legitimate customer, you'd realise how laughable that is. MailChimp discourages spam to the extent that it's actually difficult to send email to your own customers! I can assure you that they use double opt-in, unless a customer has imported a list which they are trusted to only do legitimately. FWIW, I cannot remember having ever received any spam from MailChimp.
- FooBarWidget 13y agoI second this. It's almost like they discourage me from sending any email at all. Even when I need to send an important security announcement to my customers I still get chills.
- alextingle 13y agoI honestly think they use legitimate customers as cover for their spam operation. I'm seeing dozens of e-mails a week from them to addresses that were plainly stolen from LinkedIn during their recent break-in.
- sachingulaya 13y agoDouble opt-in exists...but their API, rightfully, allows for some rule bending. Mailchimp trusts at least one of its integrations to confirm the subscription. One thing that is hugely bothersome is that it's not possible for us to collect email lists at conventions and send to then through mailchimp. Bad handwriting and/or fake email addresses resulted in a warning from mailchimp about a 22% bounce rate from a list we collected by hand. I'm not impressed with the mailchimp WYSIWYG either. It's buggy with their templates and the plaintext is always absurd. The A/B testing is nice, though.
- adyus 13y agoHave you taken a look at http://blog.mailchimp.com/mailchimp-ipad-app-is-live-chimpadeedoo/ http://blog.mailchimp.com/mailchimp-ipad-app-is-live-chimpad...
- piggity 13y agoDouble opt-in is optional at Mailchimp. Customers can add emails directly and check a box saying "yes this customer gave me permission". Aweber uses double opt-in and there is no way around it. But that is a double edged sword when you've got a business to run.
- contextual 13y agoDisagree. Although I'm looking to move away from Mailchimp, it's not because of spam issues. They adhere rigorously to CAN-SPAM laws.