"Ostracizing" is orthogonal from "using force." And AFAIK nobody is subjected to force for talking about Bradley Manning on either side of the debate, so I don

"Ostracizing" is orthogonal from "using force." And AFAIK nobody is subjected to force for talking about Bradley Manning on either side of the debate, so I don't understand your example. > Blackballing people based on ideology is a McCarthyite idea, not a progressive one Being "progressive" is not an argument _for_ something. Progressivism (that's properly a capital P) is a subset of left-wing ideology. Probably less than 20% of HN participants are Progressives. Also, there is absolutely nothing wrong with blackballing people on the basis of ideology. In fact, you have to do that. Would you sympathize with a Nazi? The idea that moral judgement is immoral is, again, a Progressive idea (and is also self-contradicting). When you label something "McCarthyite," you are falsely lumping together moral judgement (which is needed) with irrational exuberance. It's a deceptive way to use language. Let's not do that.