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Headline is quite misleading. For one thing, it's only looking at numbers in the US. On a cursory search, I can't find numbers but I suspect that Google maps is

by Shinkei 13y ago

Headline is quite misleading. For one thing, it's only looking at numbers in the US. On a cursory search, I can't find numbers but I suspect that Google maps is available in more countries and used by more people worldwide than Apple maps. Not to mention, the article assumes Apple wouldn't have attempted to develop its own app even if Google met all its needs. As we've seen previously, Apple's strategy has always been about controlling the user experience. IMHO, there's no way that Apple would've allowed Google maps to dominate its iOS users for much longer... regardless of this issue of navigation, etc. It would've just been something else as an excuse to move their users to their own platform.

interpol_p 13y ago
I think Apple would have been okay with it if Google was willing to simply remain a maps data provider. Google wanted more significant branding (which is fair enough), anything that takes control of the appearance out of Apple's hands is likely to be a deal-breaker.
- dijit 13y ago
  really? I didn't think it was a branding thing at all, the way I understand it is that you have to pay royalties for every request and access to area's of the world. an example of this not working is that; when Siri first launched it was unable to process requests for map lookups, or questions about local businesses (out of the US) because it would use google, and apple wouldn't pay for the expanded regions. this is all in my head from a conversation years ago and might be wrong, but I'd be interested to know if anyone else had information.
  - interpol_p 13y ago
    There was a WSJ article from quite some time ago that went into a lot of detail about this (quoting sources from both sides). Some of the relevant paragraphs: > The two sides bickered over a Google Maps feature called Street View, which lets people see an actual photo as if they are standing in the street. Apple wanted to incorporate Street View on the iPhone just as Google already offered it for Android phones. Google initially withheld the feature, frustrating Apple executives, according to people on both sides of the debate. > Apple executives also wanted to include Google's turn-by-turn-navigation service in the iPhone—a feature popular with Android users because it lets people treat their phones as in-car GPS devices. Google wouldn't allow it, according to people on both sides. One of these people said Google viewed Apple's terms as unfair. > Google executives, meantime, also bristled at Apple's refusal to add features that would help Google. For instance, Google wanted to emphasize its brand name more prominently within the maps app. It also wanted Apple to enable its service designed to find friends nearby, dubbed Latitude, which Apple refrained from doing, said people on both sides. Source: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304543904577398502695522974 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230454390...
unreal37 13y ago
And Google Maps is used most than Apple Maps if you look at the entire US mobile market. So really, they were kicked off Apple iOS as the default mapping application and their iOS numbers dropped. And that's surprising to whom?
bobbyi_settv 13y ago
Also, it doesn't consider how many people bought an android phone instead of iphone because they heard that it had terrific turn-by-turn mapping and that Apple Maps isn't so good.

by Shinkei 13y ago

interpol_p 13y ago

I think Apple would have been okay with it if Google was willing to simply remain a maps data provider. Google wanted more significant branding (which is fair enough), anything that takes control of the appearance out of Apple's hands is likely to be a deal-breaker.

dijit 13y ago
really? I didn't think it was a branding thing at all, the way I understand it is that you have to pay royalties for every request and access to area's of the world. an example of this not working is that; when Siri first launched it was unable to process requests for map lookups, or questions about local businesses (out of the US) because it would use google, and apple wouldn't pay for the expanded regions. this is all in my head from a conversation years ago and might be wrong, but I'd be interested to know if anyone else had information.
- interpol_p 13y ago
  There was a WSJ article from quite some time ago that went into a lot of detail about this (quoting sources from both sides). Some of the relevant paragraphs: > The two sides bickered over a Google Maps feature called Street View, which lets people see an actual photo as if they are standing in the street. Apple wanted to incorporate Street View on the iPhone just as Google already offered it for Android phones. Google initially withheld the feature, frustrating Apple executives, according to people on both sides of the debate. > Apple executives also wanted to include Google's turn-by-turn-navigation service in the iPhone—a feature popular with Android users because it lets people treat their phones as in-car GPS devices. Google wouldn't allow it, according to people on both sides. One of these people said Google viewed Apple's terms as unfair. > Google executives, meantime, also bristled at Apple's refusal to add features that would help Google. For instance, Google wanted to emphasize its brand name more prominently within the maps app. It also wanted Apple to enable its service designed to find friends nearby, dubbed Latitude, which Apple refrained from doing, said people on both sides. Source: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304543904577398502695522974 http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000142405270230454390...

unreal37 13y ago

And Google Maps is used most than Apple Maps if you look at the entire US mobile market. So really, they were kicked off Apple iOS as the default mapping application and their iOS numbers dropped. And that's surprising to whom?

bobbyi_settv 13y ago

Also, it doesn't consider how many people bought an android phone instead of iphone because they heard that it had terrific turn-by-turn mapping and that Apple Maps isn't so good.