> Sure, Play has some nice concepts - but the fact that it's built in Scala (and that there is a Java API) means that all of the things that it makes possible a

> Sure, Play has some nice concepts - but the fact that it's built in Scala (and that there is a Java API) means that all of the things that it makes possible are also possible in plain old Java! So this isn't a performance comparison by any means, but rather a "look at what you can do in similar amounts of code" comparison, which is a pretty shallow comparison. If you follow that argument, what you can do in Java that you can't do by writing bytecode by hand? Or, what you can do with a JVM lang that you can't do in assembler? His argument is that even you can do the same in Java, is so unnatural that (almost) nobody does it.