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While you are certainly right on historical facts and thus the implied legitimacy of RoC, the reality is when a news agency or the public in general mentions th
by yiransheng 13y ago
While you are certainly right on historical facts and thus the implied legitimacy of RoC, the reality is when a news agency or the public in general mentions the term China, by default they mean P.R. China. Therefore, the quoted sentence is merely describing (not agreeing) with the POV of said China, which is not that ridiculous to a neutral third party.
Taiwan is a self-governed sovereignty by most accounts, with its own economy, political system and military. It does not have mainstream international recognition from other countries however, most due to P.R China's pressure. For instance, Taiwan is not part of UN, major nations like US failed to acknowledge it as a independent country due to their reluctance to upsetting mainland China - who frequently threatens open war for such 'treacherous division of the one China'. Therefore, there are only 30 or so countries openly supports Taiwan's independence.
The morality of Taiwan's sovereignty debate obviously takes the narrative of a oppressive dictatorship and its democratic neighbor, but to claim Taiwan or RoC as the legitimate government of China and label P.R. China as the illegal, rogue ruler is far-fetched in the current world's landscape; after all the latter has taken control over the China for over half a century, wield much more political and economical power, and is widely acknowledged as a legitimate country for decades. It's almost like saying US is not a legitimate nation, rather ilegal rebellion against the Great Britain ever since some two hundred years ago.
- eob 13y ago"Taiwan is a self-governed sovereignty by most accounts" Sincere question, even though this sounds rhetorical: can you provide a piece of data which suggests Taiwan is not self-governed?
- eugenejen 13y agoi don't know whether this count as data, or just opinions: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan
- wisty 13y agoHe said "self-governed sovereignty". It is self-governed. But few countries have the backbone to say that it has the right to be.
- dak1 13y ago> The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states. > The political existence of the state is independent of recognition by the other states. Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States[1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevideo_Convention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevideo_Convention
- potatolicious 13y agoThis describes basically any civilized area. By this definition, San Francisco is a state - it has a permanent population, a well-defined border, and a legitimate government. It also has the ability to enter into relations with other states, provided anyone recognizes San Francisco as a sovereignty. By this definition it seems there's no meaningful difference between a geographic sub-government as part of a larger whole, and a nation-state in an of itself.