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"The rebellious youths in the movement say they are less concerned about what Taiwan calls itself — sovereign, independent or a self-governing area within China

"The rebellious youths in the movement say they are less concerned about what Taiwan calls itself — sovereign, independent or a self-governing area within China" If Taiwan was an area within China, they wouldn't be able to have this group in the first place and most forms of Democracy would be gone. This is why many of the people are so passionate about their beliefs in staying independent. At the moment, it truly is a free country. I know many of the social meetup group sites don't work well in China, because you aren't allowed to meet with more than 10 people at a time. I believe it's because the government is afraid you will try to organize a big group to overthrow them. Here are some more examples: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23795294 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23795294 Here is a breakdown of their new "rumor" law: http://www.dailydot.com/news/china-decree-online-rumors-prison-time/ http://www.dailydot.com/news/china-decree-online-rumors-pris...

zhemao 13y ago
I think you misunderstand the political debate. Neither the KMT nor the DPP wants Taiwan to be under the control of the PRC government. The difference is that the KMT wants Taiwan and the mainland to be reunited under the ROC government, while the DPP wants Taiwan to be an independent country.
- potatolicious 13y ago
  Largely correct, though I question if the "retaking" of China is actually still a part of KMT party doctrine. I don't think anyone seriously expects Taiwan and the mainland to be runited under the flag of the ROC - and if you suggested it people might look at you (rightly) as insane.
- paulhauggis 13y ago
  My point is that it seems this group doesn't care about being part of China, but they should.
  - zhemao 13y ago
    You're saying that they should care because if Taiwan was part of China, it wouldn't be a free country anymore. I am saying that this is false because neither of the two main parties wants Taiwan to fall under the control of the PRC regime, which is what makes the mainland unfree. What the KMT wants is for Taiwan and the mainland to be reunited under an ostensibly democratic regime. This is, of course, unlikely to happen unless something changes drastically on the mainland, making it somewhat of a pointless debate as far as Taiwanese politics is concerned. Unless the PRC invades Taiwan or collapses, there isn't much of a chance for reunification. What the whiteshirts want is to refocus attention on issues that affect Taiwan in the present day.

zhemao 13y ago

I think you misunderstand the political debate. Neither the KMT nor the DPP wants Taiwan to be under the control of the PRC government. The difference is that the KMT wants Taiwan and the mainland to be reunited under the ROC government, while the DPP wants Taiwan to be an independent country.

potatolicious 13y ago
Largely correct, though I question if the "retaking" of China is actually still a part of KMT party doctrine. I don't think anyone seriously expects Taiwan and the mainland to be runited under the flag of the ROC - and if you suggested it people might look at you (rightly) as insane.
paulhauggis 13y ago
My point is that it seems this group doesn't care about being part of China, but they should.
- zhemao 13y ago
  You're saying that they should care because if Taiwan was part of China, it wouldn't be a free country anymore. I am saying that this is false because neither of the two main parties wants Taiwan to fall under the control of the PRC regime, which is what makes the mainland unfree. What the KMT wants is for Taiwan and the mainland to be reunited under an ostensibly democratic regime. This is, of course, unlikely to happen unless something changes drastically on the mainland, making it somewhat of a pointless debate as far as Taiwanese politics is concerned. Unless the PRC invades Taiwan or collapses, there isn't much of a chance for reunification. What the whiteshirts want is to refocus attention on issues that affect Taiwan in the present day.