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Well MS fucked that one up, didn't they? They should have ignored C++11, and got Hejlsberg to design a new one ;) Regarding C# and/or .NET's abandonment - is t

by to3m 13y ago

Well MS fucked that one up, didn't they? They should have ignored C++11, and got Hejlsberg to design a new one ;) Regarding C# and/or .NET's abandonment - is this really the case? It certainly doesn't seem like it, with new revisions of the CLR coming out somewhat regularly, seemingly with new bits in each time. There's been LINQ, this new async thing, Rx, and that XML UI thing. And I know Silverlight is dead, but nothing dies without having been alive first! And I'm sure if you actively pay attention to the ecosystem - I don't, I use C# as a fancy MFC - you'd be able to reel off a whole pile of other things. It might not be quite the PR darling that it was in its youth, but it doesn't quite seem dead yet... It might be true that teams at MS don't use it.

eonil 13y ago
I am not sure that we're talking on same context… but anyway. I invested much time on C# 1.0 to 3.0 for XNA, and MS never give a shit on XNA for years and finally fucked me up. XNA doesn't exist anymore. Happy time with MS was the biggest reason made me to learn C/C++. Ironically, now Unity3D is working well with that C#. Anyway now I am on C++11 on Xcode(You should know what I mean!) and happy because I don't need to worry about any abandonment. C/C++ is core language for any practical platforms (including browsers!), and I don't need to `IDispose` all my source codes by vendor's decision. XNA stuff was my personal experience, but at least for me, MS surely abandoned the platform, and will do it again at any time. And this was possible because their core teams are not using XNA. In other words, strategic support. Maybe not yet on other fields, but I feel the time is close. The proof is, of course, the TypeScript. If you haven't checked it, google it right now. MS decided to make a new language instead of porting CLR on Javascript. I am sure that stuff is post .NET/C# (I mean post buzzword) of MS. If you don't believe MS will abandon .NET, think about how MS themselves will be damaged if .NET abandoned. Virtually none. None of their product core is based on .NET. Anyway even after they abandon .NET, it will keep taking periodic update like they did on ActiveX for last decades.

by to3m 13y ago

eonil 13y ago

I am not sure that we're talking on same context… but anyway. I invested much time on C# 1.0 to 3.0 for XNA, and MS never give a shit on XNA for years and finally fucked me up. XNA doesn't exist anymore. Happy time with MS was the biggest reason made me to learn C/C++. Ironically, now Unity3D is working well with that C#. Anyway now I am on C++11 on Xcode(You should know what I mean!) and happy because I don't need to worry about any abandonment. C/C++ is core language for any practical platforms (including browsers!), and I don't need to `IDispose` all my source codes by vendor's decision. XNA stuff was my personal experience, but at least for me, MS surely abandoned the platform, and will do it again at any time. And this was possible because their core teams are not using XNA. In other words, strategic support. Maybe not yet on other fields, but I feel the time is close. The proof is, of course, the TypeScript. If you haven't checked it, google it right now. MS decided to make a new language instead of porting CLR on Javascript. I am sure that stuff is post .NET/C# (I mean post buzzword) of MS. If you don't believe MS will abandon .NET, think about how MS themselves will be damaged if .NET abandoned. Virtually none. None of their product core is based on .NET. Anyway even after they abandon .NET, it will keep taking periodic update like they did on ActiveX for last decades.