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I'm really psyched about Tent (https://tent.io/ https://tent.io/) as an alternative model. If people start to build apps around it, the promise is a system that

I'm really psyched about Tent (https://tent.io/ https://tent.io/) as an alternative model. If people start to build apps around it, the promise is a system that puts storage and sharing into the hands of the user, not the provider.

ta_delited 13y ago
the second I read "build apps" I knew this is not even close to an alternative models. the only alternative model is decentralized, encrypted and pseudonymous/anonymous. Maybe something along the lines of btsync, btchat mixed with pursuit [1]. [1]: http://www.fp7-pursuit.eu/PursuitWeb/ http://www.fp7-pursuit.eu/PursuitWeb/
- danielsiders 13y ago
  Tent is decentralized-- most Tent apps connect only to the user's own Tent server (they aren't hosted and don't "phone home"). Tent supports client-side encryption and strongly encourages anonymity.
- acjohnson55 13y ago
  You just described Tent!
kmfrk 13y ago
And https://cupcake.is https://cupcake.is is a really dope free service people can use to kick the tires of it. EDIT: Here is an example: https://siracusa.cupcake.is/profile https://siracusa.cupcake.is/profile.
naterator 13y ago
Friggin' awesome. I have been thinking of a way to do social media but strictly under your own control, on your own server (until you decide to share something). It sounds like that's what these guys are doing. Still, people like stranger-to-stranger social media as well, like with Instagram. I suppose that functionality will always lie with a third party, since no privacy can be assumed in that case.
- acjohnson55 13y ago
  I think the way you would do this on Tent is that you would choose from many CMS apps capable of editing your blog post type (presumably, these apps will spring up as the ecosystem matures). While you're still crafting the post, you can set its sharing permissions such that no one else can see it. Perhaps you want to share it with individuals before you go public. One way to publish it would be to have your front-end platform act as a subscriber to posts with some type of "published" flag. This sort of paradigm would be amenable to having multiple aggregators acting as the front-ends for syndicating content. Comments on your posts would themselves be Tent posts, created by readers and hosted in their own Tents. Readers could have some of their conversations on your content publicly, but could also @-mention other users by Tent Entity URL to have private conversations within their social groups. I really think the sky is the limit, because the system puts the data in the users' wheelhouses, and there can be all sorts of innovation in presentation and interactivity, decoupled with many of the concerns about storage. Platforms could still monetize post content that they create and mediate, it's just that users would be able to choose the platforms that serve them best, rewarding those providers. I think there's probably a lot of stuff to figure out still, but I'm very excited to see where this goes.
- danielsiders 13y ago
  Like the web, global search and recommendations can be easily powered by Tent search engines (actually easier on Tent than the web since content is pushed, not pulled). Tent also supports content licensing on the post level so users can choose how their data can be used.

ta_delited 13y ago

the second I read "build apps" I knew this is not even close to an alternative models. the only alternative model is decentralized, encrypted and pseudonymous/anonymous. Maybe something along the lines of btsync, btchat mixed with pursuit [1]. [1]: http://www.fp7-pursuit.eu/PursuitWeb/ http://www.fp7-pursuit.eu/PursuitWeb/

danielsiders 13y ago
Tent is decentralized-- most Tent apps connect only to the user's own Tent server (they aren't hosted and don't "phone home"). Tent supports client-side encryption and strongly encourages anonymity.
acjohnson55 13y ago
You just described Tent!

kmfrk 13y ago

And https://cupcake.is https://cupcake.is is a really dope free service people can use to kick the tires of it. EDIT: Here is an example: https://siracusa.cupcake.is/profile https://siracusa.cupcake.is/profile.

naterator 13y ago

Friggin' awesome. I have been thinking of a way to do social media but strictly under your own control, on your own server (until you decide to share something). It sounds like that's what these guys are doing. Still, people like stranger-to-stranger social media as well, like with Instagram. I suppose that functionality will always lie with a third party, since no privacy can be assumed in that case.

acjohnson55 13y ago
I think the way you would do this on Tent is that you would choose from many CMS apps capable of editing your blog post type (presumably, these apps will spring up as the ecosystem matures). While you're still crafting the post, you can set its sharing permissions such that no one else can see it. Perhaps you want to share it with individuals before you go public. One way to publish it would be to have your front-end platform act as a subscriber to posts with some type of "published" flag. This sort of paradigm would be amenable to having multiple aggregators acting as the front-ends for syndicating content. Comments on your posts would themselves be Tent posts, created by readers and hosted in their own Tents. Readers could have some of their conversations on your content publicly, but could also @-mention other users by Tent Entity URL to have private conversations within their social groups. I really think the sky is the limit, because the system puts the data in the users' wheelhouses, and there can be all sorts of innovation in presentation and interactivity, decoupled with many of the concerns about storage. Platforms could still monetize post content that they create and mediate, it's just that users would be able to choose the platforms that serve them best, rewarding those providers. I think there's probably a lot of stuff to figure out still, but I'm very excited to see where this goes.
danielsiders 13y ago
Like the web, global search and recommendations can be easily powered by Tent search engines (actually easier on Tent than the web since content is pushed, not pulled). Tent also supports content licensing on the post level so users can choose how their data can be used.