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I wouldn't. You can't build a solid structure on a broken foundation, and C++ is most definitely broken. Instead you throw it away and start fresh. The problem

by orclev 13y ago

I wouldn't. You can't build a solid structure on a broken foundation, and C++ is most definitely broken. Instead you throw it away and start fresh. The problem with C++ is it tried to combine the power of C with more advanced features while still maintaining all the low level access that C gives you. The problem with that is that it undermines all the advanced features by either allowing you to easily break them in odd ways through low level features, or else by leaking low level details all over your high level abstractions and requiring you to keep track of all those details the abstractions were meant to hide in the first place. If you want to see how to do a "low level" language better look at the approach that Rust, D and to a lesser extent Go, have taken. They borrowed from C where it made sense, and they threw away what didn't fit well. C++ kept not only the good, but the bad and ugly as well.

kohanz 13y ago
This digression doesn't really answer the question of the OP, whether C++ is worth learning. I don't share your opinion, but even if I did, the answer would be a strong yes. A much larger quantity of important problems are being solved today with C++ than, say, Go. For employability, it's obviously worth learning (unless you're just doing web stuff). Even if you believe it's broken, it's worth learning to understand why it may be broken and to about those "mistakes" in the future.
- orclev 13y ago
  OK, fine, C++ is worth learning to learn what not to do, BUT, only after you've learned every other language out there. It's a waste of time to learn it before other languages because you won't have the background necessary to really appreciate how bad the language is otherwise. You might actually think it's a good language and never bother learning all the other better languages out there. Also, anything that reduces the supply of C++ programmers available for businesses to hire is probably a good thing. Fewer C++ programmers means fewer C++ programs and fewer C++ libraries, so hopefully they'll finally start writing frameworks in something other than C++.

by orclev 13y ago

kohanz 13y ago

This digression doesn't really answer the question of the OP, whether C++ is worth learning. I don't share your opinion, but even if I did, the answer would be a strong yes. A much larger quantity of important problems are being solved today with C++ than, say, Go. For employability, it's obviously worth learning (unless you're just doing web stuff). Even if you believe it's broken, it's worth learning to understand why it may be broken and to about those "mistakes" in the future.

orclev 13y ago
OK, fine, C++ is worth learning to learn what not to do, BUT, only after you've learned every other language out there. It's a waste of time to learn it before other languages because you won't have the background necessary to really appreciate how bad the language is otherwise. You might actually think it's a good language and never bother learning all the other better languages out there. Also, anything that reduces the supply of C++ programmers available for businesses to hire is probably a good thing. Fewer C++ programmers means fewer C++ programs and fewer C++ libraries, so hopefully they'll finally start writing frameworks in something other than C++.