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> C++ is pretty much exclusively used in the gaming industry I'm curious how you've come to that conclusion? C++ is used in most of the major web browsers, mos

> C++ is pretty much exclusively used in the gaming industry I'm curious how you've come to that conclusion? C++ is used in most of the major web browsers, most of the major database engines, most of the major office program suites, it's widely used at Adobe, Microsoft and Google... C++ is in the top 5 of most language popularity rankings (TIOBE, langpop). Sure, C++ has its issues, but claiming it's only used in one industry is way off base.

orclev 13y ago
Most new development isn't done in C++, all the things you're referencing are primarily legacy applications (legacy in the sense that they were originally written a long time ago, not deprecated). Most new software even at the companies you list isn't written in C++. MS for instance has thrown their weight behind C# as their go to language. Google among many things has Go to replace most of the things they used to use C++ for. I don't have any insight on Adobes usage, although I do know that most of their dev tools are built on top of Eclipse which is JVM based. As for office suites, there's three of them out there, MS, which is C#, Apples which is ObjectiveC, and LibreOffice which so far as I know is Java. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if a lot of the DB engines are done in C++, but I also would expect quite a few of them to be done in C as well. DB engine is a rather specialized area that demands the best performance you can possibly achieve, so something low level like C or C++ is to be expected. In order to achieve top performance you need to sacrifice ease of use so a really basic language like C or C++ is expected. Interestingly enough looking at the source code for Firefox there is indeed some C++, but there's actually a lot more JavaScript in the Firefox source tree than there is C++.
- asynchronous13 13y ago
  Microsoft's Office suite is primarily C++. There was an attempt to start using more C# a couple years ago, but it's still mostly C++. On a closed-source project, it's hard to get the details. But the open source projects, however, we can get a very clear picture. OpenOffice: [1] 10.4 million lines of C++ 1.2 million lines of Java *edit* noticed you mentioned LibreOffice, not OpenOffice LibreOffice: [2] 5.7 million lines of C++ 0.4 million lines of Java Firefox: [3] 4.0 million lines of C++ 1.8 million lines of C 1.7 million lines of javascript MySql: [4] 7.0 million lines of C++ 4.0 million lines of C 0.4 million lines of javascript 0.3 million lines of Java The point I'm trying to make is that C++ is widely used, and definitely not used just for gaming. > Most new development isn't done in C++ Whether or not C++ is the right choice for new development is a different question. Github posted their top 20 languages for new repositories in 2013 [5]. C++ is #6 and has more new projects than C, Objective-C and C#. Even if it's fading in popularity, that's still a lot of new projects in C++. [1] http://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice/analyses/latest/languages_summary http://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice/analyses/latest/languages_... [2] http://www.ohloh.net/p/libreoffice/analyses/latest/languages_summary http://www.ohloh.net/p/libreoffice/analyses/latest/languages... [3] https://www.ohloh.net/p/firefox/analyses/latest/languages_summary https://www.ohloh.net/p/firefox/analyses/latest/languages_su... [4] http://www.ohloh.net/p/mysql/analyses/latest/languages_summary http://www.ohloh.net/p/mysql/analyses/latest/languages_summa... [5] http://adambard.com/blog/top-github-languages-for-2013-so-far/ http://adambard.com/blog/top-github-languages-for-2013-so-fa...
- nostrademons 13y ago
  Most new development at Google still uses C++ (or Java). Go has been making inroads, but it is still largely used by early-adopters or small intranet or prototype applications. Source: I work at Google and use all the languages in use at the company (including both C++ and Go) on a daily basis.

orclev 13y ago

Most new development isn't done in C++, all the things you're referencing are primarily legacy applications (legacy in the sense that they were originally written a long time ago, not deprecated). Most new software even at the companies you list isn't written in C++. MS for instance has thrown their weight behind C# as their go to language. Google among many things has Go to replace most of the things they used to use C++ for. I don't have any insight on Adobes usage, although I do know that most of their dev tools are built on top of Eclipse which is JVM based. As for office suites, there's three of them out there, MS, which is C#, Apples which is ObjectiveC, and LibreOffice which so far as I know is Java. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if a lot of the DB engines are done in C++, but I also would expect quite a few of them to be done in C as well. DB engine is a rather specialized area that demands the best performance you can possibly achieve, so something low level like C or C++ is to be expected. In order to achieve top performance you need to sacrifice ease of use so a really basic language like C or C++ is expected. Interestingly enough looking at the source code for Firefox there is indeed some C++, but there's actually a lot more JavaScript in the Firefox source tree than there is C++.

asynchronous13 13y ago
Microsoft's Office suite is primarily C++. There was an attempt to start using more C# a couple years ago, but it's still mostly C++. On a closed-source project, it's hard to get the details. But the open source projects, however, we can get a very clear picture. OpenOffice: [1] 10.4 million lines of C++ 1.2 million lines of Java *edit* noticed you mentioned LibreOffice, not OpenOffice LibreOffice: [2] 5.7 million lines of C++ 0.4 million lines of Java Firefox: [3] 4.0 million lines of C++ 1.8 million lines of C 1.7 million lines of javascript MySql: [4] 7.0 million lines of C++ 4.0 million lines of C 0.4 million lines of javascript 0.3 million lines of Java The point I'm trying to make is that C++ is widely used, and definitely not used just for gaming. > Most new development isn't done in C++ Whether or not C++ is the right choice for new development is a different question. Github posted their top 20 languages for new repositories in 2013 [5]. C++ is #6 and has more new projects than C, Objective-C and C#. Even if it's fading in popularity, that's still a lot of new projects in C++. [1] http://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice/analyses/latest/languages_summary http://www.ohloh.net/p/openoffice/analyses/latest/languages_... [2] http://www.ohloh.net/p/libreoffice/analyses/latest/languages_summary http://www.ohloh.net/p/libreoffice/analyses/latest/languages... [3] https://www.ohloh.net/p/firefox/analyses/latest/languages_summary https://www.ohloh.net/p/firefox/analyses/latest/languages_su... [4] http://www.ohloh.net/p/mysql/analyses/latest/languages_summary http://www.ohloh.net/p/mysql/analyses/latest/languages_summa... [5] http://adambard.com/blog/top-github-languages-for-2013-so-far/ http://adambard.com/blog/top-github-languages-for-2013-so-fa...
nostrademons 13y ago
Most new development at Google still uses C++ (or Java). Go has been making inroads, but it is still largely used by early-adopters or small intranet or prototype applications. Source: I work at Google and use all the languages in use at the company (including both C++ and Go) on a daily basis.