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but most company don't need a java this days

by nhatty 13y ago

Ralz 13y ago
Not true at all! At least in Toronto most of the companies here are hiring Java programmers like crazy. Depends where you want to work, I assume in the Valley it's all Node, Ruby, iOS. I guess Android is all java as well.
dlp211 13y ago
This is wrong. Nearly every corporation including the likes of Google and Amazon use java extensively and ongoing. Despite what many articles predict or claim, Java is neither a declining technology nor a dying technology, on the contrary, Java is used more and more every single day. Is it a sexy language, no, is it a hip language, no, is it a mature language with some of, if not, the largest support libraries out there, yes, and this is why it is so popular.
profquail 13y ago
Some quick stats, according to IT Jobs Watch (a UK jobs website): Python-related jobs make up 3.36% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/python.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/python.do) Ruby-related jobs make up 3.54% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ruby.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ruby.do) --- Java-related jobs make up 14.38% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/java.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/java.do) C#-related jobs make up 16.97% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/csharp.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/csharp.do) You can't judge the popularity of a language from the stories you're used to seeing on social news websites -- enterprise software, although it may be mundane, employs a huge portion of the developers out there today, and many of them are C# or Java developers.
- csmuk 13y ago
  I wish people would promote this fact more. Reality is well outside what the marketing would have you believe. Also the reason people pick c#/java etc is simply due to it being a pretty good stable standard for fungible staff with decent productivity output and the ability to scale up really complex functionality pretty fast.
- mtdewcmu 13y ago
  I'm pretty shocked that C# has overtaken Java in number of jobs. I suppose that a lot of that growth came from cannibalizing other MS-centric languages, so it's not really comparable. But still.
ahassan 13y ago
I've seen many companies that still use Java. It's still a pretty popular technology, even though a lot of start ups don't typically use it anymore. However, I have noticed a bunch of start ups using Scala, which runs on the JVM. So learning Java and how the JVM works may be useful in the long run.

but most company don't need a java this days

by nhatty 13y ago

but most company don't need a java this days

Ralz 13y ago

Not true at all! At least in Toronto most of the companies here are hiring Java programmers like crazy. Depends where you want to work, I assume in the Valley it's all Node, Ruby, iOS. I guess Android is all java as well.

dlp211 13y ago

This is wrong. Nearly every corporation including the likes of Google and Amazon use java extensively and ongoing. Despite what many articles predict or claim, Java is neither a declining technology nor a dying technology, on the contrary, Java is used more and more every single day. Is it a sexy language, no, is it a hip language, no, is it a mature language with some of, if not, the largest support libraries out there, yes, and this is why it is so popular.

profquail 13y ago

Some quick stats, according to IT Jobs Watch (a UK jobs website): Python-related jobs make up 3.36% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/python.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/python.do) Ruby-related jobs make up 3.54% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ruby.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/ruby.do) --- Java-related jobs make up 14.38% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/java.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/java.do) C#-related jobs make up 16.97% of permanent IT jobs in the UK. (http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/csharp.do http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/jobs/uk/csharp.do) You can't judge the popularity of a language from the stories you're used to seeing on social news websites -- enterprise software, although it may be mundane, employs a huge portion of the developers out there today, and many of them are C# or Java developers.

csmuk 13y ago
I wish people would promote this fact more. Reality is well outside what the marketing would have you believe. Also the reason people pick c#/java etc is simply due to it being a pretty good stable standard for fungible staff with decent productivity output and the ability to scale up really complex functionality pretty fast.
mtdewcmu 13y ago
I'm pretty shocked that C# has overtaken Java in number of jobs. I suppose that a lot of that growth came from cannibalizing other MS-centric languages, so it's not really comparable. But still.

ahassan 13y ago

I've seen many companies that still use Java. It's still a pretty popular technology, even though a lot of start ups don't typically use it anymore. However, I have noticed a bunch of start ups using Scala, which runs on the JVM. So learning Java and how the JVM works may be useful in the long run.