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Do it anyway. Each person who raises their voice may be a little mouse, but a million mice working together can topple anything.

by hobs 13y ago

dmix 13y ago
Sending Feinstein a bunch of letters is going to help reign in NSA power? Good luck with that. She's a big part of why the NSA is as powerful as it is, because people like her are given total power to watch over the watchers (the secret panels of judges) who watch over the watchers, etc. Each level seems as apathetic to reigning in the NSA's power than the next (including the president). This is a big systemic issue, the political response both by the public and politicians has been embarrassingly impotent, considering the scale of the mass surveillance. Forgive my apathy, but this isn't like SOPA where internet campaigns are going to fix things. The power is already deeply rooted in place and the players involved are not giving it back easily. If you're going to try to counter it via politics, why waste your time sending letters to politicians who are totally complicit in the problem?
- deleted 13y ago
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- nickff 13y ago
  >Each level seems as apathetic to reigning in the NSA's power than the next (including the president). They are not just apathetic with respect to mass surveillance, they are its main proponents. They have good reason to champion the NSA's programs, as they are some of the most likely targets of any potential plot, and even if they were not physically endangered by a terrorist attack, they would be blamed for it.
- aluhut 13y ago
  > She's a big part of why the NSA is as powerful as it is, At this point, isn't it unsafe to write letters to such people? You may end up on one of the "lists".
  - b6 13y ago
    I welcome being put on a list, if it happens. I want to be part of this conflict. Something is happening now, and we need to keep pushing.
javert 13y ago
Feinstein is dishonest. No point.

Do it anyway. Each person who raises their voice may be a little mouse, but a million mice working together can topple anything.

by hobs 13y ago

Do it anyway. Each person who raises their voice may be a little mouse, but a million mice working together can topple anything.

dmix 13y ago

Sending Feinstein a bunch of letters is going to help reign in NSA power? Good luck with that. She's a big part of why the NSA is as powerful as it is, because people like her are given total power to watch over the watchers (the secret panels of judges) who watch over the watchers, etc. Each level seems as apathetic to reigning in the NSA's power than the next (including the president). This is a big systemic issue, the political response both by the public and politicians has been embarrassingly impotent, considering the scale of the mass surveillance. Forgive my apathy, but this isn't like SOPA where internet campaigns are going to fix things. The power is already deeply rooted in place and the players involved are not giving it back easily. If you're going to try to counter it via politics, why waste your time sending letters to politicians who are totally complicit in the problem?

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nickff 13y ago
>Each level seems as apathetic to reigning in the NSA's power than the next (including the president). They are not just apathetic with respect to mass surveillance, they are its main proponents. They have good reason to champion the NSA's programs, as they are some of the most likely targets of any potential plot, and even if they were not physically endangered by a terrorist attack, they would be blamed for it.
aluhut 13y ago
> She's a big part of why the NSA is as powerful as it is, At this point, isn't it unsafe to write letters to such people? You may end up on one of the "lists".
- b6 13y ago
  I welcome being put on a list, if it happens. I want to be part of this conflict. Something is happening now, and we need to keep pushing.

javert 13y ago

Feinstein is dishonest. No point.