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I see cars run stop signs and red lights all the time. I see cars speed everywhere, including neighborhoods with poor visibility http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I
by dmm 13y ago
I see cars run stop signs and red lights all the time. I see cars speed everywhere, including neighborhoods with poor visibility
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- CamperBob2 13y agoI think I was... what? 4? 5? ... when my parents explained that your reasoning is invalid.
- kika 13y agoI see them too. I also see them got ticketed heavily and some even lost the privilege to drive. But I can't say that vast majority of cars run stop signs. Your link is not relevant, sorry.
- dmm 13y agoYou're not a cyclist so you judge them differently than you judge cars. Cyclists do get ticketed, even when they are commiting crimes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWCFi3JIcU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhWCFi3JIcU
- kika 13y agoI do not bike to work, right, it's 50 miles one way. But I ride the bike for recreational purposes.
- jackmaney 13y agoHoly crap, that is the first time I have ever heard of a bicyclist being pulled over and ticketed. Good on the cop that issued that citation!
- collyw 13y agoHere in Barcelona I have heard of more cyclists get ticket than car owners (probably I know a lot more people that ride bikes admittedly). For listening to music while biking amongst other things. I guess they are an easy target for police.
- mikeash 13y agoI can't remember the last time I saw a car run a red light that wasn't just squeaking by a yellow. I can remember the last time I saw a bicycle do this, it was yesterday and the guy didn't even pretend to stop or care as he obstructed traffic that had the right of way. And not to mention that I see roughly one thousand times (literally) more cars than bicycles on the road. I don't doubt that there is a lot of confirmation bias going on in this discussion. But there's almost certainly some substantial differences in behavior going on as well. Bicyclists generally feel more entitled not to stop for stoplights when they feel it's safe to proceed. I've run lights on the bicycle myself, although I always stop, wait long enough to be sure the light isn't going to change on its own, and proceed carefully after checking for traffic. Quite a lot of bicyclists seem to think that the fact that their vehicles are human-powered means they shouldn't have to stop unless it's absolutely necessary. On the flip side, I'm sure bicyclists violate the speed limit way less often. I'm sure they kill many fewer pedestrians too.
- hetman 13y agoIn the other hand see a car do it on a weekly basis where as I can't remember the last time a bicycle did it (and in the few cases I saw it, there was no obstruction of traffic and in fact they were getting a head start to allow traffic to flow more smoothly). So now that we have these disparate anecdotes what happens next?
- mikeash 13y agoIdeally, somebody more motivated than I presents some statistics, although I fear they may not exist (neither the stats nor the person).
- skelsey 13y ago> I can't remember the last time a bicycle did it (and in the few cases I saw it...
- hetman 13y agoIndeed, the last time I saw it was so long ago I can't remember when it was. The phrase "I can't remember the last time..." is idiomatic usage in my dialect of English for: "This has occurred to me in the very distant past."
- haukilup 13y agoI am still young (20), but in my entire life I have only seen a car run a red light once. Maybe it's different up here in Canada, though.