in terms of hardware what has valve done? Make an awesome controller which is still an iteration of today's generation of controllers? Yeah, they have things in

in terms of hardware what has valve done? Make an awesome controller which is still an iteration of today's generation of controllers? Yeah, they have things in the pipeline, but some of those may fail, like virtual boy. Or they may be successful. But, to say valve is innovative and nintendo is not is just saying something bizarre.