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It's secretive because politicians can't have discussions and make deals if everything they say is picked over by their constituents and enemies. While they ma
by jpollock 13y ago
It's secretive because politicians can't have discussions and make deals if everything they say is picked over by their constituents and enemies. While they may end up at a trade deal that people want, they won't necessarily like how it ends up there.
For example, there may be a version 0.5 of the document where New Zealand must give up their single-buyer drug plan (Pharmac). This is, I believe, FATAL to the treaty in New Zealand. However, the US demands that it is there. They've got several drug companies who are able to see the agreement and they want it in. It will be gone by 1.0, but to do that some horse trading needs to happen.
So, everyone throws their wish list into the pot and then they negotiate to see what is on a requires list.
Now imagine what would happen if all that happened in front of the voters. Imagine if the first thing that you heard about the agreement was that Pharmac (the drug buyer) was going to be made illegal, and your drug costs were going to go up by a factor of 10.
Yeah, it'd be dead right out of the gate. New Zealand definitely doesn't want that, they want to ship food (milk solids) to the US. The US doesn't want that either... China has a free trade agreement with NZ, and since signing has become NZ's second largest export market, bigger than the US by 50%.
- rayiner 13y agoThe basic premise of this sort of argument is that "the people don't like free trade, we couldn't have free trade if the people had input into the process." Well we shouldn't have free trade if the people don't want it. Democracy >> economic theories.
- snowwrestler 13y agoIt's not that people don't like free trade, it's that everyone wants something different out of trade, and so there needs to be some process for working out a compromise. Every multiparty negotiation starts this way. Corporate mergers are negotiated by management and then jointly presented to stockholders. Union contracts are negotiated by union and business leaders and then presented to union members for ratification. Domestic legislation is heavily negotiated by staff before it is introduced as a bill in Congress. Etc.
- leokun 13y ago> It's secretive because politicians can't have discussions and make deals if everything they say is picked over by their constituents and enemies. Maybe they should look for another line of work then and leave it to those who can have those discussions under public scrutiny, because that's how it works in a democracy.