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Congratulations on discovering human psychology. I don't have a blog post at hand exemplifying how bosses "neg" potential hires to get them at a lower rate, but

by enko 13y ago

Congratulations on discovering human psychology. I don't have a blog post at hand exemplifying how bosses "neg" potential hires to get them at a lower rate, but I assure you, it is a Thing. "Negging" is a negotiating tactic and you have failed to show how it is linked to misogyny in any way, shape or form.

skwirl 13y ago
You're fedorable. For such an expert on human psychology, you are having an awfully hard time understanding why you are not being well received here. You don't seem to be able to figure out how to get a bunch of nerds like us to like you, which should be easier than women since you are like us, right? And you're doing a great job at digging a deeper hole.
- enko 13y ago
  Yeah, I'm not trying to make you like me. I was just trying to stick up for a community which I don't think is as malevolent as the GP proposed. FWIW, to be accused of misogyny is really offensive to me personally.
  - anu_gupta 13y ago
    Have to say that you're not reacting particularly well to being "negged". is this usual outcome?
    - hacker789 13y ago
      > not reacting particularly well What makes you say that? He's not the one throwing names around. What would constitute "reacting well" in your book? Agreeing with you?
      - anu_gupta 13y ago
        Agreeing with me about what? All I'm doing is pointing out that being "negged" just seems to be making him quite defensive and angry. I thought that having his self-esteem be reduced should make him more sexually appealing and available - but that doesn't seem to be happening.
        Goladus 13y ago
        Negging a man is supposed to make him angry. To a man, a neg is effectively a taunt. Which demonstrates that you all fail to understand what a neg is and what it's supposed to be used for. A neg is more or less exclusively meant to be used on women who are exceptionally attractive AND who have an enormous ego because of that. It's meant for women who are always surrounded by fawning men who cater to her every whim because she is beautiful. Especially in an environment, such as a nightclub, where come-ons are frequent. And even then, it usually needs to be very subtle, used in context with as light a touch as possible.
        prutschman 13y ago
        enko claimed that "negging" is merely a universal, gender-neutral negotiating tactic. You're merely reinforcing the point that it is in actuality a deliberate tactic to undermine a woman's self esteem--to take her down a peg because she is perceived as seeing herself as superior to a man.
        Goladus 13y ago
        You're merely reinforcing the point that it is in actuality a deliberate tactic to undermine a woman's self esteem--to take her down a peg because she is perceived as seeing herself as superior to a man. Right, but in practice it doesn't work like you seem to imagine it does.
  - jacalata 13y ago
    The only reason you don't want to sound "anti-woman" is...professional advice against it. You may not understand exactly how that makes you sound like you're barely holding back the pent up misogyny.
- hacker789 13y ago
  "Not being well received here"? A handful of feminists are accusing him of hating women for wanting to be more attractive to women. Nothing's new. Just because people aren't standing up to a handful of feminist bullies ("fedorable"?) doesn't mean the community here doesn't like him. It just means that don't want to pick a fight.
  - ceol 13y ago
    I had to scroll all the way down here to see someone use the word "feminist" as a baseless insult. You guys need to step up your game.
quinnchr 13y ago
Welp, congratulations! If you fail to see the misogyny in that blog post that means you're another venerable member of the PUA community who is proud of its misogyny.
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wpietri 13y ago
If somebody harms people's self esteem to get something out of them, that person is an asshole. If that person is a boss, they are an asshole boss. If they are carefully studying how to be an asshole to women, I'm ok calling them misogynist. I accept their rationalization might be different. But it always is. Everybody thinks they wear a white hat.

by enko 13y ago

skwirl 13y ago

You're fedorable. For such an expert on human psychology, you are having an awfully hard time understanding why you are not being well received here. You don't seem to be able to figure out how to get a bunch of nerds like us to like you, which should be easier than women since you are like us, right? And you're doing a great job at digging a deeper hole.

enko 13y ago
Yeah, I'm not trying to make you like me. I was just trying to stick up for a community which I don't think is as malevolent as the GP proposed. FWIW, to be accused of misogyny is really offensive to me personally.
- anu_gupta 13y ago
  Have to say that you're not reacting particularly well to being "negged". is this usual outcome?
  - hacker789 13y ago
    > not reacting particularly well What makes you say that? He's not the one throwing names around. What would constitute "reacting well" in your book? Agreeing with you?
    - anu_gupta 13y ago
      Agreeing with me about what? All I'm doing is pointing out that being "negged" just seems to be making him quite defensive and angry. I thought that having his self-esteem be reduced should make him more sexually appealing and available - but that doesn't seem to be happening.
      - Goladus 13y ago
        Negging a man is supposed to make him angry. To a man, a neg is effectively a taunt. Which demonstrates that you all fail to understand what a neg is and what it's supposed to be used for. A neg is more or less exclusively meant to be used on women who are exceptionally attractive AND who have an enormous ego because of that. It's meant for women who are always surrounded by fawning men who cater to her every whim because she is beautiful. Especially in an environment, such as a nightclub, where come-ons are frequent. And even then, it usually needs to be very subtle, used in context with as light a touch as possible.
        prutschman 13y ago
        enko claimed that "negging" is merely a universal, gender-neutral negotiating tactic. You're merely reinforcing the point that it is in actuality a deliberate tactic to undermine a woman's self esteem--to take her down a peg because she is perceived as seeing herself as superior to a man.
        Goladus 13y ago
        You're merely reinforcing the point that it is in actuality a deliberate tactic to undermine a woman's self esteem--to take her down a peg because she is perceived as seeing herself as superior to a man. Right, but in practice it doesn't work like you seem to imagine it does.
- jacalata 13y ago
  The only reason you don't want to sound "anti-woman" is...professional advice against it. You may not understand exactly how that makes you sound like you're barely holding back the pent up misogyny.
hacker789 13y ago
"Not being well received here"? A handful of feminists are accusing him of hating women for wanting to be more attractive to women. Nothing's new. Just because people aren't standing up to a handful of feminist bullies ("fedorable"?) doesn't mean the community here doesn't like him. It just means that don't want to pick a fight.
- ceol 13y ago
  I had to scroll all the way down here to see someone use the word "feminist" as a baseless insult. You guys need to step up your game.

quinnchr 13y ago

Welp, congratulations! If you fail to see the misogyny in that blog post that means you're another venerable member of the PUA community who is proud of its misogyny.

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wpietri 13y ago

If somebody harms people's self esteem to get something out of them, that person is an asshole. If that person is a boss, they are an asshole boss. If they are carefully studying how to be an asshole to women, I'm ok calling them misogynist. I accept their rationalization might be different. But it always is. Everybody thinks they wear a white hat.